Question for Ryan about Panther / Beige G3 |
October, 30, 2003 3:09 AM |
lyall.moffitt |
Just a quick question (which ISN'T a criticism)... The log states that Beige G3 needs work on the video drivers to get Panther running... Surely the Beige G3 has the same video as the original iMacs which are supported? |
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RE: Question for Ryan about Panther / Beige G3 |
November, 01, 2003 4:22 AM |
lyall.moffitt |
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The 8GB limitation is in the IDE controller - SCSI drives and PCI IDE cards should bypass this... |
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RE: Question for Ryan about Panther / Beige G3 |
October, 31, 2003 5:46 PM |
john.england |
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I thought the 8 gig limitation was due to the IDE drive, not because of what system you are on. SCSI drives do not have that limitation. |
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Question for Ryan about Panther / Beige G3 |
October, 31, 2003 2:37 PM |
architecture.vezzaro |
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Is it necessary to preserve the partition disc of 8 Go on beige G3? |
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RE: Question for Ryan about Panther / Beige G3 |
October, 31, 2003 6:27 AM |
gregoryy |
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I cloned my Panther system in B&W, used CCC 2.3 and then "bless OldWorld Target." took the drive over to Beige Rev A... select for startup... disaster. ...still trying to recover. It really "knocked the wind out of" the built in Rage video something terrible. I have another monitor on Radeon 7000 that wasn't subjected to such treatment. I didn't use "helper" feature of XPF 3, or use XPF. Never have needed it, and usually seemed to do more harm and no good. Sure would be nice, but I read where Windows was doing something to old video or monitors where monitors were actually harmed. Even Panther tries to set my ViewSonic LCD with "auto adjust" feature to use unsupported screen size and resolution that results in the monitor displaying an alert window. Something that never happened with OS 9.x or Jaguar, and the monitor is less than a year old. If Panther works, I may put Sonnet G4/700 in. If not, I'll get G4-MDD or rev b G5 (lowend). |
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RE: Question for Ryan about Panther / Beige G3 |
October, 31, 2003 12:52 AM |
mjoecups358 |
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I installed tonight 10.3 onto a rev. A iMac with Rage IIc (2M) video. Worked perfectly. Although expose is a bit sluggish (128M total). Let me know if I can look at anything on that old imac to help.... Marty |
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RE: Question for Ryan about Panther / Beige G3 |
October, 30, 2003 10:11 PM |
lt307 |
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Would the problems affecting the Beige G3 on-board video and Panther be present with an add-on PCI video card? If you need feedback, I have a Rev. C Beige G3 with both onboard ATI Rage Pro graphics and a Rage 128 based XclaimVR 128 PCI board available for testing. |
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RE: Question for Ryan about Panther / Beige G3 |
October, 30, 2003 11:48 AM |
lyall.moffitt |
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I'm no expert on the subject, but certainly the Revision 2 & 3 Beige G3 have the same Rage Pro Chipset as the Revision B (266) iMac... The Revision 1 as far as I know has the same Rage IIC as the Revision A iMac 233 Revision C & D had the Rage Pro Turbo... Hope this is of help! Keep up the good work, I hope to have Panther running on my G4 upgraded Wallstreet and Beige soon! |
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RE: Question for Ryan about Panther / Beige G3 |
October, 30, 2003 9:08 AM |
OSXGuru |
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Hmm. That's an interesting point. What I'm seeing certainly looks like a video problem -- the video goes all screwy at the point at which it would usually be changing resolutions. It appears that it relates to some changes in Mac OS X in the IONDRVFramebuffer driver. If the Beige G3 video is the same as early iMac video, that would be a clue as to how the problem might be solved :-) Or it's possible that the problem does actually lie somewhere else. |