{"id":43043,"date":"2017-11-29T15:20:00","date_gmt":"2017-11-29T21:20:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/?p=43043"},"modified":"2018-12-19T16:35:11","modified_gmt":"2018-12-19T22:35:11","slug":"using-apfs-on-hdds-and-why-you-might-not-want-to","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/43043-using-apfs-on-hdds-and-why-you-might-not-want-to\/","title":{"rendered":"Using APFS On HDDs &#8230; And Why You Might Not Want To"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-42318\" src=\"https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/Apfs.jpg\" alt=\"Apple File System\" width=\"600\" height=\"320\" srcset=\"https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/Apfs.jpg 600w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/Apfs-225x120.jpg 225w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/Apfs-284x151.jpg 284w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/Apfs-190x101.jpg 190w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/Apfs-225x120@2x.jpg 450w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/Apfs-284x151@2x.jpg 568w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/Apfs-190x101@2x.jpg 380w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>After 16 months of using and testing APFS\u2014<a href=\"https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/?s=APFS\" target=\"_blank\">Apple&#8217;s new file system<\/a>\u2014I\u2019ve come to the conclusion that you probably don\u2019t want to use it on HDDs (disks with rotating platters).<\/p>\n<p>Why? Well, to understand why APFS and <a href=\"https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/shop\/internal_storage\/hard_drives_and_SSD\" target=\"_blank\">HDDs<\/a> are not well suited, I first need to explain one of the key features of APFS: &#8220;copy on write&#8221;. &#8220;Copy on write&#8221; is the magic behind the snapshot feature in APFS and also allows you to copy really large files in in only a couple of seconds. However, to fully understand the &#8220;copy on write&#8221; process, and the implications of using APFS with HDDs, it helps first to know how copying works with HFS Extended volumes\u2026<\/p>\n<p><strong>Copying a file on an HFS Extended volume<\/strong><br \/>\nHFS Extended is the file system Apple has been using for almost 30 years, the one which all Macs running macOS 10.12 or earlier use for their startup volumes.<\/p>\n<p>For my example, I am using a 10 GB movie file, &#8220;Nina&#8217;s Birthday.mp4\u201d, which is stored in two separate blocks of data on the volume. When I play this movie file on my computer, my Mac will first read the first block and then go straight on to read the second block; it seamlessly moves from one block to the next so that, to the viewer, the movie appears as if it was a single block of data. Files on your Mac can exist in one or many blocks. Small files usually exist in one block whereas larger files are often broken up into 2 or more blocks so they can fit into the available free space in a volume.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Also Read:&nbsp;<\/strong><a title=\"The Speed of APFS: Just How Fast Is It?\" href=\"https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/42901-the-speed-of-apfs-just-how-fast-is-it\" rel=\"bookmark\">The Speed of APFS: Just How Fast Is It?<\/a>,&nbsp;<a title=\"How to Revert a drive from APFS back to HFS+\" href=\"https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/46896-how-to-revert-a-drive-from-apfs-back-to-hfs\" rel=\"bookmark\">How to Revert a drive from APFS back to HFS+<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Unlike <a href=\"https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/shop\/ssd\/owc\" target=\"_blank\">SSDs<\/a>, HDDs are mechanical devices with spinning disks (aka platters) containing your volume&#8217;s data, and heads that move over the disk in order to read that data. When a HDDs has to go to a new part of a disk, there is a delay while the head moves to the new location and waits for the correct part of the disk platter to be under the head so it can start reading. This delay is usually 4\u201310 msec (1\/250\u20131\/100 of a second). You probably won&#8217;t notice a delay when reading a file which is in 2 or 3 blocks, but reading a file which is made up of 1,000 or 10,000 blocks could be painfully slow.<\/p>\n<p>Each of the one or more blocks that make up a single file is called an extent. The file system maintains a table of these extents (one per file) called an extents table. The extents table records the location of every block in the file (the offset) and the length of that block (length). In this way, the computer knows where to go on the disk and how much data to read from that location. For every block of data in a file there is an offset and a length, which together make up a single extent in the extents table. This is the important thing to remember when you go on to read about how APFS deals with files. The &#8220;Nina&#8217;s Birthday.mp4&#8221; file in my example has two extents, the first of which is 2 GB in length and the second of which is 8 GB.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-43040\" src=\"https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/HFS_1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" srcset=\"https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/HFS_1.jpg 900w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/HFS_1-213x120.jpg 213w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/HFS_1-284x160.jpg 284w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/HFS_1-190x107.jpg 190w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/HFS_1-548x308.jpg 548w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/HFS_1-364x204.jpg 364w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/HFS_1-750x421.jpg 750w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/HFS_1-230x129.jpg 230w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/HFS_1-100x56.jpg 100w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/HFS_1-213x120@2x.jpg 426w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/HFS_1-284x160@2x.jpg 568w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/HFS_1-190x107@2x.jpg 380w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>So let\u2019s say I need to make a copy of this file. When I copy the file on my HFS Extended volume, my Mac reads the file&#8217;s data, locates a free space in the volume for the copy, and then writes the copied data out. If it can, the Mac will write the new file out as a single block. However, in my example, the volume doesn\u2019t contain a single block of space that is 10 GB in size so it has to write out the file as 2 blocks: the first 4 GB in length and the second 6 GB. Both the original file and the copy can be read relatively quickly because each has only 2 blocks, thus 2 extents.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-43041\" src=\"https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/HFS_2.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" srcset=\"https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/HFS_2.jpg 900w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/HFS_2-213x120.jpg 213w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/HFS_2-284x160.jpg 284w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/HFS_2-190x107.jpg 190w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/HFS_2-548x308.jpg 548w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/HFS_2-364x204.jpg 364w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/HFS_2-750x421.jpg 750w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/HFS_2-230x129.jpg 230w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/HFS_2-100x56.jpg 100w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/HFS_2-213x120@2x.jpg 426w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/HFS_2-284x160@2x.jpg 568w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/HFS_2-190x107@2x.jpg 380w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>If I now edit the original movie and add four edits (say transitions between different scenes), when I save the changes, they will be written out over the existing data for this file. Even after the edits, my movie file will still contain only 2 extents and can be read relatively quickly.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-43042\" src=\"https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/HFS_3.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" srcset=\"https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/HFS_3.jpg 900w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/HFS_3-213x120.jpg 213w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/HFS_3-284x160.jpg 284w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/HFS_3-190x107.jpg 190w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/HFS_3-548x308.jpg 548w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/HFS_3-364x204.jpg 364w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/HFS_3-750x421.jpg 750w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/HFS_3-230x129.jpg 230w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/HFS_3-100x56.jpg 100w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/HFS_3-213x120@2x.jpg 426w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/HFS_3-284x160@2x.jpg 568w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/HFS_3-190x107@2x.jpg 380w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong>Copying a file on an APFS volume<\/strong><br \/>\nFor my example with an APFS volume, I will start with the same movie file, &#8220;Nina&#8217;s Birthday.mp4,&#8221; which is made up of 2 extents, the first 2 GB in length and the second 8 GB.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-43037\" src=\"https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/APFS_4jpg.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" srcset=\"https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/APFS_4jpg.jpg 900w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/APFS_4jpg-213x120.jpg 213w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/APFS_4jpg-284x160.jpg 284w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/APFS_4jpg-190x107.jpg 190w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/APFS_4jpg-548x308.jpg 548w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/APFS_4jpg-364x204.jpg 364w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/APFS_4jpg-750x421.jpg 750w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/APFS_4jpg-230x129.jpg 230w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/APFS_4jpg-100x56.jpg 100w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/APFS_4jpg-213x120@2x.jpg 426w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/APFS_4jpg-284x160@2x.jpg 568w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/APFS_4jpg-190x107@2x.jpg 380w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>When I copy this file on an APFS volume, the file data doesn&#8217;t actually get copied to a new location on the disk. Instead, the file system knows that both the original and the copy contain the exact same data, so both the original file and its copy point to (reference) the same data. They may look like separate files in the Finder but, under the hood, both filenames point to the same place on the disk. And although the original and the copy each has its own extents table, the extents tables are identical.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-43038\" src=\"https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/APFS_5.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" srcset=\"https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/APFS_5.jpg 900w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/APFS_5-213x120.jpg 213w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/APFS_5-284x160.jpg 284w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/APFS_5-190x107.jpg 190w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/APFS_5-548x308.jpg 548w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/APFS_5-364x204.jpg 364w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/APFS_5-750x421.jpg 750w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/APFS_5-230x129.jpg 230w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/APFS_5-100x56.jpg 100w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/APFS_5-213x120@2x.jpg 426w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/APFS_5-284x160@2x.jpg 568w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/APFS_5-190x107@2x.jpg 380w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>This is the magic of copy on write and the reason copying a 100 GB file only takes a few seconds: no data is actually being copied! The file system is just creating a new extents table for the copy (there may be other information it needs to keep track of for the new file, but that\u2019s not important in this example).<\/p>\n<p>I mentioned above that with APFS, an original file and its copy will have identical extents tables. However, this is true only until you make a change to one of them. When I go to create the same 4 transitions in my movie that I created when using my HFS Extended volume, APFS has to find new, unused, space on the disk to store these edits. It can\u2019t write the edits over the original file, like the HFS Extended volume does, because then the changes would exist in both the original file and its copy\u2014remember that the extents table for the file and its copy point to the same location on the disk. So that would be really bad.<\/p>\n<p>Instead, APFS creates a new extent for each of the edits. It also has to create a new extent for the remaining data after the transition, the part of the movie which comes after the transition and which is still the same in both the original movie and its copy. Therefore, for each non-contiguous write, the file system has to create 2 new extents, one for the changed data and one for the original data (common to the original file and its copy), which follows the new data. If this sounds complicated it\u2019s because it is\u2014requiring multiple back-and-forths between the locations of the original file and the files with all the changes. Each back-and-forth is recorded as a new extent.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-43039\" src=\"https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/APFS_6.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" srcset=\"https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/APFS_6.jpg 900w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/APFS_6-213x120.jpg 213w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/APFS_6-284x160.jpg 284w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/APFS_6-190x107.jpg 190w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/APFS_6-548x308.jpg 548w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/APFS_6-364x204.jpg 364w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/APFS_6-750x421.jpg 750w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/APFS_6-230x129.jpg 230w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/APFS_6-100x56.jpg 100w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/APFS_6-213x120@2x.jpg 426w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/APFS_6-284x160@2x.jpg 568w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/APFS_6-190x107@2x.jpg 380w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>After writing out my 4 transitions, my original movie file now has 10 extents. This might not seem like a lot of extents but that\u2019s for only 4 edits! Editing an entire movie, or even just retouching a photo could result in thousands of extents. Imagine what happens with the file used to store your mail messages when you are getting hundreds or thousands of messages a week. And if you are someone who uses Parallels or VM Ware Fusion, each time you start up your virtual machine it probably results in 100,000 writes. You can see that any of these types of files could easily get many thousand extents.<\/p>\n<p>Now imagine what will happen when your Mac goes to read a file with a thousand or more extents on an HDD. As the file system reaches the end of one extent and starts reading from the next one, it has to wait the 4\u201310 msec for the disk&#8217;s platter and head to get aligned correctly to begin reading the next extent. Multiply this delay by 1,000 or more and the time taken to read these files could become unbearably long.<\/p>\n<p>This long delay when reading large files is the reason I don&#8217;t recommend using APFS on HDDs. This delay will only occur with files which have been written to a lot, and if the file has been copied or the volume has a snapshot. But who wants to use a volume where you have to remember not to copy files or use Time Machine?<\/p>\n<p>I think Apple is aware of this problem as they tell you not to automatically convert startup volumes on HDDs to APFS when upgrading to High Sierra. In addition, when erasing a disk, the Disk Utility application only chooses APFS as the default file system if it can confirm that the disk is an SSD.<\/p>\n<p>The proof: I knew from the start that this was how copy on write was supposed to work, but just to be sure, I wanted to see what was actually going on at the disk level. Since I am the developer for <a href=\"https:\/\/www.softraid.com\/index.php\" target=\"_blank\">SoftRAID<\/a>, I can use the SoftRAID driver to allow me to watch what is actually going on.<\/p>\n<p>I created a special version of the SoftRAID driver, which allowed me to record where on a disk the file system was reading and writing data and how much data was transferred each time. I then edited a file on both HFS Extended and APFS volumes.<\/p>\n<p>With a file on an HFS Extended volume, I could see the original data being overwritten in the same location. I saw this same behavior with a file on an APFS volume as long as the file had not been copied or a snapshot did not exist for this volume. As soon as I copied the file or created a snapshot of the volume, all writes were made to new locations on the volume, locations that were not part of the original file.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>After 16 months of using and testing APFS\u2014Apple&#8217;s new file system\u2014I\u2019ve come to the conclusion that you probably don\u2019t want to use it on HDDs (disks with rotating platters). Why? 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