{"id":67796,"date":"2020-11-20T12:30:00","date_gmt":"2020-11-20T18:30:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/?p=67796"},"modified":"2020-11-21T11:28:39","modified_gmt":"2020-11-21T17:28:39","slug":"thunderbolt-usb4-vs-thunderbolt-4","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/67796-thunderbolt-usb4-vs-thunderbolt-4\/","title":{"rendered":"What Is Apple\u2019s &#8220;Thunderbolt \/ USB 4&#8221; vs. PC-Windows Thunderbolt 4?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/tb4-usb4_1920x1080-scaled.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1400\" height=\"788\" src=\"https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/tb4-usb4_1920x1080-scaled.jpg\" alt=\"Back of Mac mini showing Thunderbolt \/USB 4\" class=\"wp-image-67826\" srcset=\"https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/tb4-usb4_1920x1080-scaled.jpg 1400w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/tb4-usb4_1920x1080-213x120.jpg 213w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/tb4-usb4_1920x1080-284x160.jpg 284w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/tb4-usb4_1920x1080-190x107.jpg 190w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/tb4-usb4_1920x1080-1536x864.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/tb4-usb4_1920x1080-548x308.jpg 548w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/tb4-usb4_1920x1080-364x204.jpg 364w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/tb4-usb4_1920x1080-750x421.jpg 750w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/tb4-usb4_1920x1080-230x129.jpg 230w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/tb4-usb4_1920x1080-100x56.jpg 100w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/tb4-usb4_1920x1080-213x120@2x.jpg 426w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/tb4-usb4_1920x1080-284x160@2x.jpg 568w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/tb4-usb4_1920x1080-190x107@2x.jpg 380w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1400px) 100vw, 1400px\" \/><\/a><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p>Well\u2026 I really like how Apple is presenting Thunderbolt as <strong>&#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/support.apple.com\/guide\/mac-help\/about-the-thunderbolt-ports-mh35952\/mac\">Thunderbolt \/ USB 4<\/a>&#8220;<\/strong> on its latest Macs.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>You see, <strong>Thunderbolt 4<\/strong> finally promises PC\/Windows users all the features Thunderbolt 3 has long offered Apple users. For Mac users, full Thunderbolt capability has always been present. This has been true since the first Macs with Thunderbolt 3 (Thunderbolt USB-C). What Apple did was simply call out that <strong>they now support USB 4<\/strong>. This is in addition to the Thunderbolt features already standard and present.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator is-style-default\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-say-what\">Say what? <\/h2>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"alignright size-thumbnail\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"175\" height=\"190\" src=\"https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/Thunderbolt_boltlogo.svg_-175x190.png\" alt=\"Thunderbolt logo\" class=\"wp-image-37206\" srcset=\"https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/Thunderbolt_boltlogo.svg_-175x190.png 175w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/Thunderbolt_boltlogo.svg_-111x120.png 111w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/Thunderbolt_boltlogo.svg_-284x308.png 284w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/Thunderbolt_boltlogo.svg_.png 300w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/Thunderbolt_boltlogo.svg_-111x120@2x.png 222w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 175px) 100vw, 175px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>While Apple has always fully implemented Thunderbolt standards, PC\/Windows makers had optionality with what parts and features would be present on a Thunderbolt 3 system. The result has been a hodgepodge. A PC user needed to look at the small print to know if their system could do 40Gb\/s bandwidth, support multiple displays, power delivery, etc\u2026. or even whether an additional add-on card was necessary to use Thunderbolt 3 at all.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I (and all of our customer support agents) have a great appreciation for Apple making the full implementation a standard on every Mac made. Now, with Thunderbolt 4, there is no option for a PC maker. Thunderbolt 4 on a PC means (just like it always has been on a Mac) that all the so-called Thunderbolt capabilities and features are included. Oh, and no more add-on cards ever needed either.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator is-style-default\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-anything-else\">Anything else?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>The only other difference is that like the new Apple silicon Mac M1 models with Thunderbolt \/ USB 4, PCs designated with Thunderbolt 4 also have USB 4.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So what we have now is current Intel Macs with &#8220;Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C)&#8221; and new Apple silicon Macs with &#8220;Thunderbolt \/ USB 4.&#8221; As for using Thunderbolt on your Mac, that doesn\u2019t matter. Because M1 or Intel, all Macs give you the same capabilities&nbsp;and can use all of the&nbsp;<a class=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/shop\/Thunderbolt\">same great peripherals<\/a>.&nbsp;So-called &#8220;Thunderbolt 4&#8221; is really a marketing term for those looking at PCs. For the first time, they can know that a PC with Thunderbolt 4 isn\u2019t missing anything.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>As you see in the graphic below, Apple alludes to this very idea. &#8220;Thunderbolt \/ USB 4&#8221; is &#8220;Thunderbolt 3&#8221; \u2013 there is no need to even call it Thunderbolt 4.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-full is-resized\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.apple.com\/macbook-pro-13\/specs\/\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/tb4-usb4.png\" alt=\"A screenshot of the specs from the M1 powered 13&quot; MackBook Pro showing Thunderbolt \/ USB 4\" class=\"wp-image-67801\" width=\"744\" height=\"261\" srcset=\"https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/tb4-usb4.png 1488w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/tb4-usb4-284x100.png 284w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/tb4-usb4-190x67.png 190w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/tb4-usb4-284x100@2x.png 568w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/tb4-usb4-190x67@2x.png 380w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 744px) 100vw, 744px\" \/><\/a><figcaption>A screenshot of the specs from the M1 powered 13&#8243; MackBook Pro<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator is-style-default\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-there-is-only-one-small-caveat\">There is only one small caveat&#8230;<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>An exciting and much asked for new feature introduced to Thunderbolt is support for hubbing, which allows you to add more Thunderbolt ports. Since this hubbing support comes from a new chipset, you will need to be running&nbsp;<strong>macOS 11 Big Sur&nbsp;on your Mac<\/strong>. So, to use our new&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/shop\/owc-thunderbolt-hub\">OWC Thunderbolt Hub<\/a>&nbsp;and other upcoming solutions that incorporate hubbing, make sure you are running macOS 11 or later.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>For PC users it\u2019s a different story. 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