{"id":95575,"date":"2024-09-25T06:00:00","date_gmt":"2024-09-25T11:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/?p=95575"},"modified":"2024-09-26T19:01:42","modified_gmt":"2024-09-27T00:01:42","slug":"mac-backups-and-cloning-why-apfs-snapshots-can-be-problematic","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/95575-mac-backups-and-cloning-why-apfs-snapshots-can-be-problematic\/","title":{"rendered":"Mac Backups and Cloning: Why APFS Snapshots Can be Problematic"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1280\" height=\"720\" src=\"https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/clone-your-mac-hero.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-85540\" srcset=\"https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/clone-your-mac-hero.png 1280w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/clone-your-mac-hero-213x120.png 213w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/clone-your-mac-hero-284x160.png 284w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/clone-your-mac-hero-190x107.png 190w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/clone-your-mac-hero-750x421.png 750w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/clone-your-mac-hero-548x308.png 548w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/clone-your-mac-hero-364x204.png 364w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/clone-your-mac-hero-230x129.png 230w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/clone-your-mac-hero-100x56.png 100w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/clone-your-mac-hero-213x120@2x.png 426w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/clone-your-mac-hero-284x160@2x.png 568w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/clone-your-mac-hero-190x107@2x.png 380w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1280px) 100vw, 1280px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>My <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/macperformanceguide.com\/2023 Mac Pro M2 Ultra\" data-type=\"URL\" data-id=\"https:\/\/macperformanceguide.com\/2023 Mac Pro M2 Ultra\" target=\"_blank\">2023 Mac Pro M2 Ultra <\/a>has been one of the most stable Macs I have owned. But it still crashes about once a month which is too often and really quite unacceptable.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-after-a-crash-is-it-all-still-good\">After a crash, is it all still good?<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>After a crash, it is best to check the file system on each and every attached drive. That is, a crash could cause damage to the file system. This damage won\u2019t necessarily manifest in an immediate or obvious problem, or any problem of any kind. But sometime later something could go haywire, seemingly out of the blue.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-clone-backups\">Clone backups<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Multiple clone backups are the mainstay of a solid backup strategy. I covered how to make clone backups in the article  <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/88091-backup-best-practices-how-to-make-fast-clone-backups-on-a-mac\/?utm_source=diglloyd&amp;utm_content=_a_%7Ediglloyd%40blog_2024_20240215_0900_OWCBlog_FastCloneBackups\" data-type=\"URL\" data-id=\"https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/88091-backup-best-practices-how-to-make-fast-clone-backups-on-a-mac\/?utm_source=diglloyd&amp;utm_content=_a_%7Ediglloyd%40blog_2024_20240215_0900_OWCBlog_FastCloneBackups\" target=\"_blank\"><em>Backup Best Practices: How to Make Fast Clone Backups on a Mac<\/em><\/a>. You should have at least two such backups for your critical data, and ideally have at least one offsite away from the computer and its associated risks.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>An appealing feature of clone backups is the ability to take <strong>snapshots<\/strong> of the backup iteration. Apple defines APFS snapshots as \u201ca read-only copy of its parent APFS volume, taken at a particular moment in time.\u201d This makes it possible to get at something specific on your system 3 hours, 3 days, or 33 days ago\u2014a similar idea as how Apple\u2019s Time Machine backups work in practice. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-apfs-snapshots-make-file-system-verification-glacially-slow\">APFS snapshots make file system verification glacially slow<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>But snapshots come with a catch\u2014<strong>disk first aid with more than a few snapshots can take a very, <em>very<\/em> long time to check<\/strong>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>After a crash one day, I wanted to verify all my volumes. This is usually a quick process taking perhaps 30 seconds for most volumes, a few minutes for ones with millions of files. Very reasonable.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But on this occasion, I quickly ran into a problem: one of the backup drives had snapshots enabled\u2014485 of them. When I started running Apple Disk First Aid, it was <strong>taking 20-30 seconds per snapshot<\/strong>. At that rate, <strong>it would take 3-4 hours in order to verify the file system on that drive<\/strong>. I find this unacceptable. In fact, I have 3 or 4 such volumes with a similar number of snapshots. What if I had to perform first aid on each of them?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-full is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/2024-0805-DiskUtility-FirstAid-snapshots.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-96392\" width=\"1184\" height=\"756\" srcset=\"https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/2024-0805-DiskUtility-FirstAid-snapshots.jpg 2368w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/2024-0805-DiskUtility-FirstAid-snapshots-188x120.jpg 188w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/2024-0805-DiskUtility-FirstAid-snapshots-284x181.jpg 284w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/2024-0805-DiskUtility-FirstAid-snapshots-190x121.jpg 190w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/2024-0805-DiskUtility-FirstAid-snapshots-1536x981.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/2024-0805-DiskUtility-FirstAid-snapshots-2048x1308.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/2024-0805-DiskUtility-FirstAid-snapshots-188x120@2x.jpg 376w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/2024-0805-DiskUtility-FirstAid-snapshots-284x181@2x.jpg 568w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/2024-0805-DiskUtility-FirstAid-snapshots-190x121@2x.jpg 380w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1184px) 100vw, 1184px\" \/><figcaption><strong>Apple Disk Utility performing Disk First Aid<\/strong><\/figcaption><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-removing-and-disabling-snapshots\">Removing and disabling snapshots<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Regrettably, my recommendation is to disable snapshots, as I know of no other workaround to making disk first aid usable.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Whatever theoretical benefit snapshots might offer, which I have never used, the cost of having to wait  hours to verify the integrity of my volumes is simply unacceptable.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>My backup program of choice is <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/macperformanceguide.com\/Carbon Copy Cloner\" data-type=\"URL\" data-id=\"https:\/\/macperformanceguide.com\/Carbon Copy Cloner\" target=\"_blank\">Carbon Copy Cloner<\/a>. Luckily it makes it easy to remove the snapshots by turning them off. By turning off the option checkbox, CCC removes them on the spot very quickly.  I was then able to verify the volume in short order. Problem solved!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-full is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/2024-0805-CarbonCopyCloner-RemovingSnapshots-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-96394\" width=\"750\" height=\"786\" srcset=\"https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/2024-0805-CarbonCopyCloner-RemovingSnapshots-1.jpg 1500w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/2024-0805-CarbonCopyCloner-RemovingSnapshots-1-115x120.jpg 115w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/2024-0805-CarbonCopyCloner-RemovingSnapshots-1-284x298.jpg 284w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/2024-0805-CarbonCopyCloner-RemovingSnapshots-1-181x190.jpg 181w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/2024-0805-CarbonCopyCloner-RemovingSnapshots-1-1466x1536.jpg 1466w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/2024-0805-CarbonCopyCloner-RemovingSnapshots-1-115x120@2x.jpg 230w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/2024-0805-CarbonCopyCloner-RemovingSnapshots-1-284x298@2x.jpg 568w, https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/2024-0805-CarbonCopyCloner-RemovingSnapshots-1-181x190@2x.jpg 362w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 750px) 100vw, 750px\" \/><figcaption>Carbon Copy Cloner: disabling snapshots on backup volume removes them<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n<p><!-- \/wp:post-content --><\/p>\n<p><!-- wp:heading --><\/p>\n<h2 id=\"h-conclusions\">Conclusions<\/h2>\n<p><!-- \/wp:heading --><\/p>\n<p><!-- wp:paragraph --><\/p>\n<p>Backup versioning has its place, which is why I run Apple Time Machine in addition to clone backups. \u00a0But clone backups are a mainstay, and so I will not be using snapshots with them given how long disk first aid takes to verify them.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/macperformanceguide.com\/blog\/2024\/20240120_1300-OWCBlog-SeparateDataVolumeForImportantData.html\"><em>Storing Important Data on the Boot Drive is Asking For Trouble \u2014 Always Make a Separate Volume<\/em><\/a><br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/diglloyd.com\/blog\/2023\/20231120_1200-ProPhotographersGuideToBackupInTheField.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" data-type=\"URL\" data-id=\"https:\/\/diglloyd.com\/blog\/2023\/20231120_1200-ProPhotographersGuideToBackupInTheField.html\"><em>A Pro Photographer\u2019s Guide to Fast Data Backup in the Field<\/em><\/a><br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/macperformanceguide.com\/blog-2024-05.html#20240522_1436-OWCBlog-BestDrivesForBackup\"><em>The Best Drives and Smart Strategy for Safe, Secure and Consistent Mac Backups<\/em><\/a><br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/macperformanceguide.com\/blog\/2024\/20240215_0900-OWCBlog-FastCloneBackups.html\"><em>Backup Best Practices: How to Make Fast Clone Backups on a Mac<\/em><\/a><br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/macperformanceguide.com\/blog\/2024\/20240110_1049-OWCBlog-TimeMachine-WhatToDoWhenYourTimeMachineIsFull.html\"><em>What to Do Your When Mac\u2019s Time Machine Says Its Backup Drive Is Full<\/em><\/a><br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/macperformanceguide.com\/blog\/2023\/20231219_1200-OWCBlog-BackupBestPractices-HowToUseTimeMachineOptimallyWithOtherMacOSBackups.html\"><em>Backup Best Practices: How to Use Time Machine Optimally With Other macOS Backups<\/em><\/a><\/p>\n<p><!-- \/wp:paragraph --><\/p>\n<p><!-- wp:paragraph --><\/p>\n<p><!-- \/wp:paragraph --><\/p>\n<p><!-- wp:paragraph --><\/p>\n<p>&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><!-- \/wp:paragraph --><\/p>\n<p><!-- wp:paragraph --><\/p>\n<p>Need help working through your computing or photography system design? <a href=\"https:\/\/macperformanceguide.com\/consulting.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Consult with Lloyd<\/a> before you potentially buy too much or too little, and see <a href=\"https:\/\/diglloyd.com\/_wishlist-bh-bh_mac.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">my Mac wishlist of current models<\/a>, first pondering <a href=\"https:\/\/eshop.macsales.com\/blog\/90191-the-ultimate-mac-buyers-guide-part-2-the-huge-value-of-refurbished-and-used-macs\/?utm_source=diglloyd&amp;utm_content=_a_%7Ediglloyd%40index\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">whether refurbished or used Macs might do the job for you<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><!-- \/wp:paragraph --><\/p>\n<p><!-- wp:image {\"align\":\"right\",\"width\":125,\"height\":70,\"sizeSlug\":\"large\",\"linkDestination\":\"custom\",\"className\":\"is-style-default\"} --><\/p>\n<div class=\"wp-block-image is-style-default\">\n<figure class=\"alignright size-large is-resized\"><a href=\"https:\/\/diglloyd.com\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/diglloyd.com\/gfx\/flag.diglloyd.png?dglyOWCB=PureViewingPleasure6K\" alt=\"\" width=\"125\" height=\"70\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<p><!-- \/wp:image --><\/p>\n<p><!-- wp:paragraph --><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/macperformanceguide.com\/OWC articles by Lloyd\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">View all posts by Lloyd Chambers\u2026<\/a> Lloyd\u2019s photo web site is <a href=\"https:\/\/diglloyd.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">diglloyd.com<\/a>, computers is <a href=\"https:\/\/macperformanceguide.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">MacPerformanceGuide.<\/a>com, cycling and health are found at <a href=\"https:\/\/windinmyface.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">WindInMyFace.com<\/a>, software tools including disk testing and <a href=\"https:\/\/macperformanceguide.com\/autoTopic.html?dglyTP=data+integrity\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">data integrity validation<\/a> at <a href=\"https:\/\/diglloydtools.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">diglloydTools.com<\/a>. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/diglloyd\/collections\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Patreon page<\/a>.<!-- \/wp:paragraph --><\/p>\n<p><!-- \/wp:paragraph --><\/p>\n<p><!-- wp:image {\"align\":\"center\",\"width\":1296,\"height\":972,\"sizeSlug\":\"large\",\"linkDestination\":\"custom\"} --><\/p>\n<div class=\"wp-image\">\u00a0<\/div>\n<p><!-- wp:image {\"width\":null,\"height\":null,\"sizeSlug\":\"large\",\"linkDestination\":\"custom\"} --><\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/diglloyd.com\/blog\/2024\/20240731_1438-SigmaFE28_45f1_8-examples-Backyard.html\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/diglloyd.com\/blog\/2024\/images\/2024-0731-garden-_DGL7460-f1_8,2592x1728.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"NaN\" height=\"NaN\" \/><\/a>\n<figcaption><em>Gourd Flower<\/em><br \/>f1.8 @ 1\/800 sec handheld, ISO 100; 2024-07-28 08:23:30<br \/>Sony A7R V + Sigma FE 28-45mm f\/1.8 DG DN Art @ 45mm<\/figcaption>\n<\/figure>\n<p><!-- \/wp:image --><\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>APFS snapshots can be a handy way to check in on a specific system state after backup. 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