Disk Warrior 3 bad news for us ? |
May, 07, 2003 4:05 PM |
willschou1 |
Disk Warrior 3 was released today. I don't think it can be used on Old World Macs. This is based on info on their website. They don't mention old world macs but...It requires OSX 10.2.1 and you need to boot from the CD to run it on your boot disk. They include a copy of Disk Warrior 2.1 for users running OS 9.x and older versions of OS X. This tells me that version 3 can't be booted from in OS 9.x. So buying this upgrade will be of no use to people who alrady own the 2.1 version until Ryan is able to enable booting from a CD in OSX on our machines. It has been mentioned that this is being worked on for XPFacto 3.0 . However hasn't been mentioned in a long time in regards to if it is still a feature of version 3 XPF Ryan? A possible work around would be having a second partition with another copy of OSX . You could then copy Disk Warrior 3 to this partition and run it from there. You would have to be booted on that partition and while it is possible to do this with version 2.1 no word yet if it works with version 3. While the good news is that Disk Warrior 2.1 works fine when booted from OS 9.x on the OSX disk. It runs really slow version 3 is a major speed up on checking and repairing OSX disks. It also has some other improvments. I just wanted to get the word out before people spend their money only to be disappointed. |
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RE: Disk Warrior 3 bad news for us ? |
May, 16, 2003 5:42 PM |
jeglin |
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Heh, I've seen DW2 take well more than an hour on an OSX volume. But it does work in the end. I just drink beer. |
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May, 14, 2003 6:46 PM |
marcush |
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DW takes about that long for me too but I don't see it as a problem because it has worked without fail for me since I bought version 1 years ago. I have not ordered the upgrade yet but will soon. |
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May, 14, 2003 5:03 PM |
gregoryy |
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Thanks, I might though I don't like to use DW2 on OS X, takes an hour! and Alsoft said I was the only person reporting problem. |
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May, 14, 2003 1:38 PM |
mjoecups358 |
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Drive 10 is worthless IME. Try booting back to 9 and running Diskwarrior 2.1 which has fixed/recovered many corrupted OSX drives for me. Marty |
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May, 14, 2003 1:02 PM |
gregoryy |
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Is anyone seeing trouble with DW3 where after using it, a shutdown or restart will hang? Seems like the "gear wheel" on restart is as far as it gets. Yes, SCSI drives take longer than ATA, but has happened with both, on two machines, anytime that DW creates and writes a new Directory. Maybe OS X 10.2.6 is trying to use the old directory that was cached or the volume table of contents and can't? Scary. I tried using Drive 10 - but that turned into a disaster and made things worse so I ended up initializing and restoring from backups. |
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May, 13, 2003 8:10 PM |
willschou1 |
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John, Just a few more questions. So you installed OSX using the Sonnet software or just using the Sonnet L2/ OSX tuneup software with XPFacto? I'm still wondering how you are booting the cd. I now remember I was able to make a cd using bootcd but wasn't able to boot it up. XPFacto doesn't see the cd to boot from and OSX refuses to boot from it???? |
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May, 13, 2003 12:42 AM |
john.england |
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Yes I am! I'm typing this on my 9600 with a Sonnet G4/800 processor. Now in all fairness, my system was enabled by the Sonnet software, not the XPostfacto software. Nothing personal, it's just that the Sonnet guys seem to have enabled their L2 and L3 caches in a different way so that my system feels faster. Once 10.2 was installed and upgraded, I re-installed the extensions and bootx from XPostfacto and I use XPostfacto to switch from OS 9 to OS X. I used the latest version of bootCD from versiontracker.com, 0.5.3. |
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RE: Disk Warrior 3 bad news for us ? |
May, 13, 2003 12:14 AM |
willschou1 |
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John are you saying you were able to make a bootable cd using bootcd and it worked on an old world mac using XPfacto for OSX? It didn't work when I tried it last and Ryan said it wasn't likely to work without the coming in XPF 3.0 changes. There has been a new version of bootcd which I haven't tried. Please give info on how you did this. |
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May, 12, 2003 11:49 PM |
john.england |
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Funny, it works flawlessly for me! I used BootCD to make a bootable CD (which is as slow as molasses I might add) but it does work! Diskwarrior 3 performed just as good in OS 10.2.6 as we are all used to under OS 9. |
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May, 08, 2003 5:52 PM |
OSXGuru |
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That's an interesting point. However, you will be able to use a different volume to bootstrap the boot process (that is, you don't have to use the "problem" volume if you have another one available). And presumably you need to have one good volume if you're booting from Mac OS 9 at all, in order to run XPF. But it is true that the procedure will require one "good" partition in order to work. Or at least mostly good :-) |
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May, 08, 2003 2:06 PM |
mjoecups358 |
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Actually Ryan, that isn't such a great idea in this case... Since the Bootstrapping of XPF would DEPEND upon the integrity of the boot HD... In other words if your OSX boot drive became severely corrupted, then XPF3 would NOT be able to allow the DW3 CD to boot... Kind of funny, Marty |
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May, 08, 2003 12:14 AM |
lei1 |
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That is awesome news Ryan. Enabling OSX CD booting in Old World machines is a killer feature. I am looking forward to XPF3 more than ever. Thanks once again. |
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RE: Disk Warrior 3 bad news for us ? |
May, 07, 2003 11:31 PM |
willschou1 |
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Marty, Please explain how this would work. Are you saying burn another CD with Disk Warrior 3.0 on it and include XPFacto on the disk? What makes you think this would boot? I would be happy to hear this would boot but I don't think it will work. Please send more info if you have gotten this to make an OSX disk that will boot. The good news is Ryan has just said XPF 3.0 will include booting from a CD. I was wanting to warn people that already own DW 2.1 to save their money until XPF 3.0 comes out. later Will S |
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RE: Disk Warrior 3 bad news for us ? |
May, 07, 2003 5:53 PM |
OSXGuru |
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XPF 3 will allow you to boot from any bootable Mac OS X CD, whether or not the CD has Old World support or not. So XPF 3 will solve this particular problem. I've actually got this feature working already, so it truly will be there. |
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May, 07, 2003 5:11 PM |
kbata |
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It's cheep to get an external SCSI case that you could load OS X on so that you could run disk utility's on your main system. That has always been an issue running X on old-world Macs. I'v always had a second OS X setup on my main system since my Mac can't run OS 9 because of my Atto UL2D card. |
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RE: Disk Warrior 3 bad news for us ? |
May, 07, 2003 4:43 PM |
mjoecups358 |
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I don't think so... I believe will be able to duplicate the Diskwarrior disk image and install XPF and we'll be set with a bootable CD. I think ALsoft is OK with this, but doesn't want to support this config (which is OK). Also the new CD includes a OS9 boot and DW 2.1 which kicks serious butt IME. Marty |