XLR8 G4 350mhx card, onboard vid, 7300 Problems!!! |
May, 06, 2003 3:29 PM |
jeff.barrows |
Please help. I have also reposted my original message... below.... I am not sure if i am doing anythign wrong. I tried the suggestions, and like I said in a previous message, I am still having problems. I boot xpostfacto, leave everything alone, and get a staticy screen, that my monitor can't handle. I was really hoping that joing this forum would givew me some answers. So, is there anyone else out there that got this to work on this conifg, or anything like it? Do I need to format the drive I am putting x on specially? I tried formatting one of the drives as a os-x disk, and it wouldn't do it... and when I let xpostfacto do it's own thing, my computer pram needs to be taken out and put back in... and i need to wait like 10 minz, and taker out my drives, booting from a cd.... Please help. I know this is possible, I know it can be done. I just can't seem to get it to work yet. please help Thanks JB Here: jeff.barrows So here's what's up with me. I bought a g4-350Mhz daughter card from Xl8r, so that I could finally catch up with the rest of the world. I have three hard-drives, the fastest is a Quantum "Medalist", which is the trying to run "jag" on. OS 9 is on two of the disks, both the one I am tyring to install x on, and my external, which is currently running all my system software, and my appl;ications. I have tried both with 9 on the disk and without, and I have formated the drive with hard disk toolkit. I have installed xpostfacto, and gotten it to load all the stuff from the 10.2 disk, but when I reboot, and hit option c, all I end up getting is a flash of the grey apple, and then a circle with a cross through it. I also tried auto-boot, and I ended up with a screen that my monitor couldn't even read. Basically like the monitor was sized incorrectly. I do realize this might be alot of work, to get this running, but I am hoping that someone can direct me a little here. I have basically read the faq, and tried to follow all the suggestions, with the same results... No command line, just a circle with a cross through it. Please, any help would be much appreciated JB a.k.a Feel like a N00B again... |
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XLR8 G4 350mhx card, onboard vid, 7300 Problems!!! |
May, 11, 2003 5:00 PM |
nick.ashton |
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The ordering of interfaces in the network prefs is pretty straightforward. Unlike OS9 where only one interface can be active for IP at any one time (unless you run a utility like IPNetRouter) on OSX all the interfaces that you choose to enable are simultaneously active. When you send a packet to a local address e.g. your router, it's obvious from the address which interface that device is connected to. When you want to send a packet to a non-local address e.g. an internet site, the operating system has no knowledge of where that address is located, so it sends the request on the primary network interface (the first one listed in network prefs). There's nothing weird or magical involved. Having a built-in IP router is just one of the many advantages of having a Unix based OS. Unfortunately Apple's approach to making Unix user friendly seems mostly to rely on not providing any documentation to explain how things actually work. Hence the confusion. |
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XLR8 G4 350mhx card, onboard vid, 7300 Problems!!! |
May, 10, 2003 10:23 PM |
fixitjc |
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If you haven't run permission repair in Disk Utility now is the time it can speed things up a bit |
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RE: XLR8 G4 350mhx card, onboard vid, 7300 Problem |
May, 10, 2003 9:49 PM |
jeff.barrows |
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Awsome. Finally writing to this forum on OSX. I did what you said nick, and deleted the ethernet built in driver, and had my pci card be the first thing that MacOSX saw. And it worked. YEY!!! I am very happy with this. Now if I could just fiugre out why I get random gross garbage off my cursor on occasion. Still think that's kinda wierd. Anyone have an answer to why putting my PCI card first worked? I really thought that was wierd. I also wanted to ask people what they thought about this article, and what these defaults setting's really mean. I don't understand how apple could put anything else in but these defaults, but according to what I read here, the defaults are set differently. Also, does anyone know of any other ways to juice up the system? I want her as fast as she can be... Thanks... -DC p.s. the url.:. http://www.stepwise.com/Articles/Editorial/2002-04-01.01.html |
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XLR8 G4 350mhx card, onboard vid, 7300 Problems!!! |
May, 10, 2003 9:17 AM |
nick.ashton |
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Two things to check in OSX :- Have you put anything in the DHCP Client ID box in the OSX Network prefs panel? I've found that some DHCP servers don't like having this field filled in. If you go into the Network Port Configurations menu you need to make sure that the interface which you are using to connect to your router is the first interface listed. If not then reorder them to place this interface first. |
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RE: XLR8 G4 350mhx card, onboard vid, 7300 Problem |
May, 09, 2003 10:17 PM |
jeff.barrows |
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Unfourtunatley entering it in manually doesn't work. It is pulling up the DHCP info, I can sign ijnto my router, I can sign into my server which is connected on the network. But I cannot get through to the LAN. I have no problem connecting in 9. Really wierd. I mean, for all intensive purposes, according to the network, I should be connecting. Any other sughgestions ya'll? I also have tried reinstalling, and I have tried it with 9.2.2 being beneath X, on the disk. Very, very strange... -DC |
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XLR8 G4 350mhx card, onboard vid, 7300 Problems!!! |
May, 09, 2003 12:13 PM |
tempest |
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Static on your display--if you're using onboard video--means your motherboard is dirty with dust and/or your video RAM DIMMs are dirty. If you cannot use DHCP, then it's maybe due to either: 1. you only have one remaining lease and you cannot obtain any more leases. 2. OS X is not getting everything required for DHCP. Try to configure manually or DHCP with IP only and fill in the rest manually. Stuff like subnetmask, router, DNS servrs, search domains, fill those in manually. |
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RE: XLR8 G4 350mhx card, onboard vid, 7300 Problem |
May, 09, 2003 10:55 AM |
jeff.barrows |
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Hey All.... I just wanted to say that the suggestion of sizing down my monitor settings and the using xpostfacto actually worked. YEY. I got everything up and working... I am using X with no problem. Well, there is a new problem now. First some background on what I am doing. I am using a PCI ethernet card. I have installed the driver for it in X. I have set it up Network the way it is supposed to be set up. I am getting a IP from DHCP. But when I am trying to connect to the internet, I am experiencing a problem. It basically will not connect anywhere but locally. I have enetered my DNS servers... I have rebooted many times. The same settings work fine on 9. I am wondering if this has to do with using an Old World machine, and Xpost. Or if anyone else out there has had any similiar problems. Thanks to the person who made the suggestion to resize the monitor. There is one other wierd thing about x that I am experiencing. I am getting wierd garbage off of my cursor in the otherwise Gorgeous background of Jaguar. Wondering what this might be. Thanks for any info anyone can give. Also, for thos eof you using the XL8R cards, the engineers over there have written a good cache prog for Jaguar. Thanks All. -DC |
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XLR8 G4 350mhx card, onboard vid, 7300 Problems!!! |
May, 08, 2003 1:57 PM |
fixitjc |
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a couple of thoughts... 1 check your video RAM have you moved it? I made that mistake on my 8500 they have to be in every other slot. check your monitor resolution I'm not sure if it carries over from 9 to 10 but you might pick a lower resolution before you use XPF to launch X. I would try to format your drive using the 9.1 Drive Utility. That is what all my drives are formatted with and I am running 5 SCSI drives 3 - 9 gig (internal) and 2 full hight 43 gig (external) You must use the XPF app. to launch the X install you can not boot directly to the CD XPF has to do that. Hope that helps. Jim |
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static |
May, 08, 2003 7:58 AM |
naturist |
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Jeff, I've never seen static/fuzz/etc. on the onboard video display, but I do have an issue of a vertical white line that sometimes appears and tracks my cursor. This is clearly something wrong with the onboard video system, since it has been there for years and is one reason I bought a PCI video card. I have noted that using the onboard video at least briefly to set up the video displays is necessary, even if only brief use is needed. So if you have some bad circuitry in your onboard video, you have a real problem. On the other hand, if it ONLY shows up when you try to boot into OS X, I think the problem lies elsewhere. We all eagerly await your report of what else you see. While you are at it, what version of Hard Disk Speedtools are you using? I know that 3.5.0 works, as I have it. Not so sure about earlier versions. |
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RE: XLR8 G4 350mhx card, onboard vid, 7300 Problem |
May, 08, 2003 1:56 AM |
jeff.barrows |
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well, as far as the utility, hard disk toolkit contains hard disk speedtools. As far as the option C button is concerned.. I have NOT been pressing it. And as far as the log is concerned... I will get you a copy of it and post it as soon as I have a new copy of jaguar. One of my friends actually seems ot have used my disk as a coaster.. Luckily he is going to be getting me another copy... Grrrrrrrr And as far as leaving it alone... Is it supposed to be all fuzzy like it is?? All statiky and what not??? Basically my monitor shuts DOWN. It will not display whatever junk is coming across on the screen... Thanks for the input. I might even get a chance to post tonight the message I get of xpost.. Thanks again. -DC |
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RE: XLR8 G4 350mhx card, onboard vid, 7300 Problem |
May, 07, 2003 6:52 AM |
matt804 |
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Just reading through your thread and noticed you formatted the drive with hard disk toolkit. It says in the XpostFacto FAQ that many people have had problems with disks formatted with this utility. Could this be a cause of your problems? Perhaps you could try formatting with a different utility. eg. hard disk speedtools or the apple utility. Worth a try. |
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XLR8 G4 350mhx card, onboard vid, 7300 Problems!!! |
May, 06, 2003 10:36 PM |
kbata |
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Can you post the log that xposfacto puts on you OS 9 drive? That may shed some light on what's going wrong. |
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lay off the option-C!!!! |
May, 06, 2003 8:51 PM |
naturist |
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As somebody said below, DON'T USE OPTION-C when you try to reboot into OS X. That doesn't work. I expect that your drive was formatted with HFS+ or the installer would not have worked. So to reboot into OS X after installation, boot first into OS 9, launch XpostFacto, reinstall the extensions and boot blocks from the menu for good measure, and click on the launch from button after specifying your OS X partition AND KEEP YOUR HANDS OFF THE KEYBOARD WHILE IT BOOTS. I have a very similar set up: 7500 w/400MHz XLR8 G4 and multiple internal and external hard drives. And while I've not been using the onboard video, it works. The whole machine runs like a champ 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, and rarely with OS 9. |
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