Anyone get a ATI 7000 to run in OS X.2? |
July, 03, 2003 11:12 PM |
joseph.petrick |
On board video is the only thing that keeps the machine from locking up during boot. Plug the video into the ATI card and system freeze, unplug it all's well. Any ideas? Joe |
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RE: Anyone get a ATI 7000 to run in OS X.2? |
July, 07, 2003 9:17 PM |
joseph.petrick |
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Progress report The ATI 7000 continues to function through 10.1.5 on both my 7600 and 8600. Joe |
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RE: Anyone get a ATI 7000 to run in OS X.2? |
July, 07, 2003 7:10 PM |
joseph.petrick |
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Progress I went back and started at plain OS X and had success with the ATI 7000. I am now trying 10.1 to see if that is also the case. I will continue through the upgrades until the ATI card fails and then take a look at why it fails. Thanks for the help Joe |
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RE: Anyone get a ATI 7000 to run in OS X.2? |
July, 06, 2003 5:58 AM |
jpiira |
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Hi, you can check the processor type with the Sonnet Metronome Application - for me it tells now PowerPC G4 7451, while the older card said PowerPC G4 7455. Have you installed the QuickTime 6.0.2 on the OS 9 side and tested watching JPEGs? I tested ALL the possible hardware configs before sending the card back to Sonnet, removed PCI cards one at a time, tried different slots, tried with different RAM etc. but it did not get any better. Actually I did not believe the Sonnet card was faulty until I tested it in my friends Mac and the JPEGs freezing on it too. By the way, the Radeon chip actually should get hot, my original Radeon has a fan mounted on it. The Radeon 7000 draws a liitle less power but it is not a low power chip either. If there is no monitor connected to the Radeon at startup, the chip is probably not turned fully on, so it will not get hot. Juha |
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RE: Anyone get a ATI 7000 to run in OS X.2? |
July, 04, 2003 6:31 PM |
joseph.petrick |
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Something I am noticing is that the ATI card when plugged in and connected to the monitor is running REALLY hot. When it is not connected to a monitor but plugged in it barely puts out any heat. I find it odd that in such a short period the card can generate an awful lot of heat without running for any length of time. comments appreciated Joe |
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RE: Anyone get a ATI 7000 to run in OS X.2? |
July, 04, 2003 6:18 PM |
joseph.petrick |
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I have tried the ATI card in all 3 positions. It is currently in slot 1 next to the processor, then the Asante 690 10/100 and the Orange Micro USB/1394 card I am letting seti run for a bit on it with the on-board video to see if the current system is stable let you kow how it goes Joe |
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RE: Anyone get a ATI 7000 to run in OS X.2? |
July, 04, 2003 5:53 PM |
rampel183 |
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Have any of you tried placing the ATI 7K in the PCI slot which is the Nearest to the processor? It has been posted here numerous times as the all-in-wonder solution to the problem you describe |
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RE: Anyone get a ATI 7000 to run in OS X.2? |
July, 04, 2003 3:33 PM |
joseph.petrick |
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Juha- I thought it may have been the Sonnet CPU card and sent it back in to Sonnet. They did some tests and sent it back saying it was in perfect running order. I removed the Orange Micro USB/1394 card and no change. The startup fails in the same place, right as the desktop is about to be drawn. How can I tell which processor type is one the Sonnet card? I updated to 10.2.6 and that was a failure. I then tried to go back to the older ATI Oct 02 drivers and even change the firmware back to the 118 version. No luck there either. so I am back where I started. Joe |
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RE: Anyone get a ATI 7000 to run in OS X.2? |
July, 04, 2003 12:53 PM |
rhodee |
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Hi, No success here. 9600 XLR8 G4 450 mhz, OS10.2, 768 MB RAM, have upgraded to MSC 3.0.0, plenty of HD space, and quite knowledge about stuff (so I thought). I have downloaded and installed all the Radeon stuff I could find. Sent an e-mail to ATI just recently. The card seems to start but I am not able to see any icons. Tried using the key board to get around but that was minimal in effect. Will watch what's happening here. Any ideas? Rhodee |
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RE: Anyone get a ATI 7000 to run in OS X.2? |
July, 04, 2003 9:16 AM |
jpiira |
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Hi, I had exactly the same problem with a PowerMac 7300, Sonnet G4/800 card (with a Motorola 7455 processor), original ATI PCI Radeon, an ATA/66 card and an USB card. I had to use onboard video to be able to boot in X. With monitor connected to the Radeon, the Mac froze just before drawing the OS X Dock. At the same time, OS 9 was working generally well but when I intalled QuickTime 6.0.2, watching JPEGs in OS 9 started causing immediate freeze with the Radeon but not with the onboard video. With the QuickTime 5 there were no problems. I noticed also that removing my USB card fixed the QuickTime issue and helped booting into OS X but X was still flaky and I needed the USB anyway. (By the way, have you tried to use your Radeon with the ethernet card removed?) At the same time my friend had absolutely no problems with almost similar system, a 7500 with a Sonnet G4/700 Hz (with a Motorola 7451 processor) and the Radeon 7000. Also, if I replaced the Sonnet G4/800 with my old PowerLogix G3/400 card, all was well. After struggling for 4 weeks we finally tried switching the Sonnet cards with my friend. My Mac started to work and his Mac started crashing. So I figured out that my Sonnet card was faulty - it seemed to have some hardware timing problems with the other PCI cards. So I sent the card back to Sonnet and they sent me a new card which has now been working for 3 months. It was interesting to see that the new G4/800 card I received was actually using the older 7451 processor instead of the 7455 processor. As a side note, this faulty 7455 based G4/800 card was actually my second Sonnet card. The first 7455 based G4/800 card I received was almost dead on arrival: it had problems to boot properly even into OS 9 and it never worked for over 5 minutes. This leads me to suspect that the 7451 processor may work better than the 7455 processor with the old Macs. I had heard that all the Sonnet G4/800 MHz cards used initially 7455 processors while the G4/700 MHz cards used 7451's. However, my current G4/800 MHz card is 7451 based and works well. You can not get a 7451 to go higher than 800 MHz with 50 MHz bus since its highest clock multiplier is 16. With a 7455 the highest multiplier is 28, but I doubt we'll see faster upgrades for old macs since the 7455 seems to be quite sensitive for the timing glitches even when operating at 16x bus speed. Juha |
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RE: Anyone get a ATI 7000 to run in OS X.2? |
July, 04, 2003 6:55 AM |
joseph.petrick |
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Tom- You bet, here's some info. 7600 Sonnet G4/800, 384MB RAM, Asante 690 10/100 card, ATI 7000 x2 Quantum 4GB HD's, Apple x24 CD-ROM Used XPF 2.2.5 to install OS 10.2 then DL'ed the 10.2.6 upgrade Installed the Sonnet 1.2.6 Tune-up The lock-up occurs consistantly in the late stages of start-up as the system trys to create the desktop. No HD's or dock yet on desktop, but after the OS X splash screen Joe |
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RE: Anyone get a ATI 7000 to run in OS X.2? |
July, 04, 2003 2:42 AM |
twoolley |
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Joseph, Many of us use a ATI Radeon 7000 without problems with OS X Jaguar. Please provide more specific information about your hardware and system software and we may be able to help you. If you are running OS 10.2 try upgrading to 10.2.6 for starters if you haven't already. Tom PowerTower Pro 250Sonnet G4 800Sonnet Tempo TrioRadeon 7000OS 10.2.6 |
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