Working machine profiles... |
June, 17, 2003 3:45 PM |
mjoecups358 |
Powercomputing PowertowerPro Metabox G3/450 56Mhz bus. OSX 10.26 (Top of system) | 5) Empty | 4) Radeon PCI Mac edition | 3) Generic USB2 (NEC) Works in both for 1.1 (don't have any USB2 to test) | 2) Generic FW (works in 9 and OSX) Ipod and Granite digital bridge. | 1) ATTO Ultra2 from OWC firware 1.43f (as shipped) boots 9.1 and OSX (Pair of Atlas 10K 9WLS Mirrored with my User data on them). | 0) acard 66 Maxtor 6L060J3(60gig) and/Teac(CDW540E)40x (burner with buffer under run protection fully supported in OSX), | (Bottom of system) |
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RE: Working machine profiles... |
July, 10, 2003 8:02 PM |
jr-newhouse |
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PowerMac 7300/200 NewerTech G3 400/200 Processor Upgrade Card MacOS 10.2.6 (Installed on same HD as MacOS 9.1) ATI Rage 128 PCI Video Card XLR8 USB PCI Card 224 MB 5V FPM RAM (NewerRam) LaCie 24X CDRW SCSI Burner (External) 2 IBM Ultrastar 9 MB SCSI HDs (Internal) IOMEGA 100 MB SCSI Zip Drive (External) Altec Lansing 3 Speaker Sustem NEC MultiSync P750 17" Monitor Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer 3.0 Mouse Epson C82 USB Printer RCA Cable Modem-Comcast Broadband This setup works flawlessly for me. I have never experienced one kernal panic or crash in OS X (knock wood). Also, switching back and forth between OS 9 and X works beautifully. Games that play more than acceptably (to me) on this system (in OS X) include Warcraft III, Dungeon Siege, and Fallout 2. I plan on getting a G5 sometime in the near future, but I would like to publically thank Ryan for giving me the opportunity to learn about OS X on my old workhorse (which has served me very well for the last 6 years!). Joe |
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RE: Working machine profiles...--PowerCenter 150 |
July, 09, 2003 1:09 PM |
richter30 |
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PowerComputing PowerCenter 150 Tower: Sonnet Crescendo 400Mhz/512L2 processor upgrade 272MB RAM 19G IBM internal SCSI drive w/ two partitions-an 8G partition houses OSX 1G Apple-ROM internal SCSI (original to PC)--houses OS9.1 Phillips internal SCSI CD-ROM (original to PC) ADB mouse and keyboard generic $10 USB PCI card Adaptec FireWire PCI card ATI Rage Pro 128 PCI video card (from B&W G3) XPostFacto for booting into X Sonnet OSX Tune-UP to enable L2 under OSX PowerCenter works beautifully in OS10.1.5. USB and Firewire work, OpenGL works reasonably with ATI Rage Pro, though video choppy. Have loaded all my OSX apps that will run on 10.1.5 (Final Cut Express, Photoshop, Freehand MX, Dreamweaver MX, MS Office X, etc.) and all run fine and actually seem to be fairly snappy for most functions (except, of course, rendering which is processor dependent). Flash movies and Flash MX are on the slower side. Big problems are the following--can't boot back into 9.1 without major problems. First, although the G3 processor upgrade works flawlessly in OSX, it doesn't work that well under OS9. Apparently, according to Sonnet, there are video sync problems with some of the PowerComputing models. With the G3 card in, I can almost never get any video when booting into OS9. The PowerCenter will seem to boot fine (chime, hard drive spinning, etc.), but just black screen on both ATI card and internal video. So to boot into OS9, I have to put in my old (original) processor card. Also, if I boot into OS9, PRAM gets all messed up and the PowerCenter loses track of the SCSI bus that my OSX hard drive is on. The desktop will just show my 1G drive. It takes a series of resetting PRAM and CUDA to get the drive to be recognized again. Then I can boot into X without any problem. The challenge this all poses is that to install OS10.2, I have to have a G3 installed. But, I can't boot into OS9 and get any video without switching the G3 upgrade with the original processor--disabling my ability to install 10.2 under XPostFacto. This applied to with the L2CacheConfig. I couldn't even use it because I can't get into OS9 with my upgrade card. I used Sonnet's OSX Tune Up to enable the L2 cache. Jim Richter Indy |
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RE: Working machine profiles... |
July, 09, 2003 6:18 AM |
rpjallan |
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PM 7300/200 Sonnet Crescendo/PCI G4/800 processor card 448MB Ram Slot 1: Sonnet Tempo ATA 100 PCI card Slot 2: USB card Slot 3: ATI Radeon Mac Edition PCI card Original 2GB SCSI hard drive Internal SCSI Yamaha CRW8424S Seagate Barracuda 80GB ATA 100 hard drive Mitsubishi Diamond Pro 730 monitor |
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RE: Working machine profiles... |
July, 08, 2003 3:40 AM |
john.england |
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Powermac 9600 with a Sonnet G4/800 mhz processor upgrade, a gigabyte of RAM, one floppy drive, one internal ZIP drive, one 24x CD Rom player and one Yamaha 2100S CDRW (now internal). Slot 1: Digidesign Audiomedia III Soundcard for Protools. Slot 2: Firewire Card linking one Maxtor 80g backup external hard 1 drive and another custom 120g external hard drive. Slot 3: ATI 7000 PCI graphics card. Slot 4: Ethernet 10/100 Card. Slot 5: Adaptec 29160N SCSI Card running a Fujitsu 36g 15K SCSI drive as the main drive. Nicknamed FrankenMAC! |
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RE: Working machine profiles... |
July, 08, 2003 12:36 AM |
joevt |
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PM 9500/120 200 MHz 604e from PM 8600/200 224 MB (16x6+32*4 interleaved) 6 GB internal SCSI drive with OS X 10.1.5 1 GB internal SCSI drive 500 MB internal SCSI drive original internal CD ATI Rage 128 (from B&W G3 with DVD decoder) Apple 13" RGB ATI XClaim VR Pro with AppleVision 1710 2 ATI XClaim Mach 64 graphics cards |
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RE: Working machine profiles... |
July, 07, 2003 10:55 PM |
joevt |
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PM 8600/200 XLR8 G3 500 Carrier ZIF (using PowerLogix CPU Director) 512 MB (4x128 OWC DIMMs interleaved) Radeon 7000 with Apple ColorSync 850 monitor Sonnet Tempo Trio with 20 GB ATA drive and OS X 10.2.6 Microsoft USB Wireless Optical Mouse ADB Keyboard and Mouse 3 internal 2 GB SCSI drives original internal SCSI zip drive original internal SCSI CD FireWire CD-RW |
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RE: Working machine profiles... |
July, 03, 2003 12:16 PM |
rjbailey |
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Powermac 8500 with Sonnet G4/800 processor card 240 MB RAM 10.2.6 Top slot: Asante Fast 590 NIC Middle slot: ATI Xclaim 3D Pro video card, 8MB VRAM Bottom slot: IOGear USB 2.0 card GIC220U. (Sound out through connected iMic) Internal WDE 18300 Ultra2 18GB disk External SCSI chain with Zip, Jaz, and Quantum Fireball 2GB Apple Desktop Bus Mouse II (This is what hung me up the most: I could not boot past the OSX install screen until I removed the Contour ADB mouse I had previously used in OS9.) |
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RE: Working machine profiles... |
July, 03, 2003 2:01 AM |
lei1 |
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Powermac 8600/300 upgraded to 9600 Kansas board c/w: 800MHz Sonnet PCI processor card 896MB RAM (FPM type) 3 X IBM 18GB Ultra160 hard drives (on Acard controller) 9GB Quantum AtlasIV hard drive (68pin-50pin adapted on internal SCSI bus) OWC 40GB/5200RPM firewire drive (portable type) Slot A1 - Acard 67160M Ultra160 SCSI controller c/w ATTO 160 cabling Slot B1 - ATI Radeon 7000/32MB graphics card Mac Edition) Slot C1 - Startech 2-port USB card Slot D2 - OWC 3-port Firewire card Slot E2 - Asante 10/100 ethernet card Slot F2 - empty (obstructed by hard drive) Stock 24X CDROM drive Yamaha 16/10/32 SCSI CDRW drive Stock Zip100 drive Stock floppy drive Also: 2 X Stock ADB keyboards Kensington 2-button ADB mouse Logitech MX400 optical wireless USB mouse Lacie Electron 19 Blue III monitor Linksys router, 4-port USB hub, Fujitsu laser printer, HP Officejet d155xi multifunction priner (ethernet connected), Cambridge speakers, Canon G2 camera Networked with G4/450AGP (upgraded to 1GHz). Running 10.2.6 & all peripherals rock solid. Slow graphics performance. Quick otherwise. I love my 8600 but the G5's got me droolin'. Don't think I can give up the 8600 quite yet so maybe when Panther is preloaded on the G5 ......... Apple why do you do this to me? |
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RE: Working machine profiles... |
July, 02, 2003 6:33 PM |
nick.ashton |
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PM 8600/200 NewerTech G3-400/1M cache Sonnet Tango Firewire/USB 1.1 card slot A1 DEC DE500 10/100 Ethernet card slot B1 DEC DE500 10/100 Ethernet card slot C1 352MB RAM Built-in SCSI CD-ROM, ZIP100, Quantum 2Gb (OS9) & IBM 4GB(OSX) hard drives Built-in video 2MB VRAM External LaCie Firewire/USB 20Gb hard drive External LaCie Firewire/USB2 16x4x24 CD-RW drive External SCSI Epson GT-5000 Scanner (OS9 only) Epson SC880 USB printer |
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RE: Working machine profiles... |
July, 02, 2003 7:57 AM |
rdemby |
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PM 7300/200 Sonnet Crescendo G4/400 OEM 12x CD-Rom Atlas lV Quantum 36GB HD-Int IBM 9GB HD-Int Club Mac 36GB FW/HD-Ext Teac FW CDRW -Ext Altec Lansing Speakers NEC MultiSync 97F ATI Mac Edition Radeon Mac 32mb PCI ( PCI Extreme ) Farallon Ethernet 10/100 PCI Sonnet Tango FW/USB PCI 1 GB Ram Global Village V.92 56k Modem UMAX Astra 2400 SCSI Scanner ( Works w/Vuescan ) Brother HL-1440 USB Laser Printer Epson Stylus Photo 700 USB Parallel Adapter ( Works w/GimpPrint ) |
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RE: Working machine profiles... |
June, 29, 2003 7:12 PM |
pbell3 |
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PowerBook-G3 Kanga. Box stock, 160megs ram. MacOS 10.2.6 Serial ports work. Internal modem doesn't (must use external modem), ethernet unknown PC-card slot inop, crashes system if card is present (unrelated to OS, crashes OS9 too, I think it's a non-important hardware fault) Screen brightness inop Sound works, but has one level (soft) or OFF Battery meter not present Sleep cannot be used (old problem[Ryan's docs]) "About this mac" cannot identify system, reports 250Mhz G3, only Very slow startup, jams for almost 3 minutes at "Initializing Network Software" |
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RE: Working machine profiles... |
June, 27, 2003 4:52 PM |
coomes |
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Power Macintosh 9600/233 (Tsunami architecture I believe) Sonnet Crescendo/PCI G3 450MHz/1MB Cache PowerPC Register Settings: PVR 0x00088302 (processor version) L2CR set to 0xB9000072 with L2CacheConfig HID0 & HID1 left at default settings I believe CPU Temperature: 36C idle to 44C under heavy load Memory: 832MB, 4xOWC 128MB non-edo, filled out with 4x64MB, 4x16MB, vendor unknown PCI slots (top to bottom) A1: ADSTech USB 1.1 card B1: OWC basic FireWire card C1: Sonnet Tempo ATA133, firmware upgraded to v4.0 D2: Empty E2: ATI Radeon 7000 F2: Empty (default video card removed) Current Internal Hard Disks( 1 main partition each, HFS+, jouraled): SCSI 0.0: Original IBM 4GB (MacOS 9.2.2 installed) SCSI 0.2: Micropolis 2GB (ancient) IDE 1.Master: IBM/Hitachi Deskstar 120GB GXP (currently the startup disk). SCSI 0.3: Original CD External Devices: Firewire: 30GB Western Digital, HFS+, journaled USB: Lexar Media Universal Combo Film Reader USB: Epson Stylus Color 740 SCSI 1.6: Zip 100 Since some have commented on 9600 OSX installation difficulties, here is, more or less, what I did to get 10.2.6 running from the 120GB disk. Warning: it is more of a journal than a suggested upgrade process. OS Installation Procedure: Using XPF 2.2.5 (of course) 0. Started with a stock 9600/233, except for NewerTech MaxPowr G3 250, 384MB memory, and 2x2GB extra ancient internal SCSI hard disks. Booted from MacOS 9.2.2 intalled on original 4GB hard disk. 1. MacOS X 10.2 installed from CD to an empty 2GB disk, 2. Upgraded to 10.2.6 using software update. The 9600 seemed to work fine, but was a little slow. 3. Installed USB card, extra memory, Sonnet G3 450, ATA133 card, Firewire card, and ATI video card. Removed old video card (left lowest PCI slot open). Rebooted between each installed or removed item. MacOS 9.2.2 had a problem with a video driver conflict, but OSX seemed to glide through the process. Using XPF, set the firmware output device to the ATI card and enabled verbose output. (The only glich here came when I tried putting the USB card in the lowest PCI slot and reset CUDA. I seem to recall reading that the lowest PCI slot is treated specially by the controller chip. In any case, moving the USB card to another slot seemed to fix that glitch.) 4. 120GB Disk formatted under 9.2.2 using Drive Setup 2.0.7 (Warning: formatting with Disk Utility under 10.2.6 led to failure. I should have followed the XPF instructions to the letter.) 5. Cloned 2GB disk to 120GB disk using ditto as described on the Carbon Copy Cloner web site (for some reason CCC hung during the cloning process, so I ended up doing the copy using ditto from a root shell). 5. I was then able to boot from the 120GB disk. 6. Upgrading the ATA card's firmware cleaned up the boot log a bit. Epilogue. I pulled the original 2GB OSX boot disk out, moved it and the NewerTech G3 card to an 8500, and now it is running 10.2.6. Other System Software Changes: Latest Radeon drivers installed Quartz Extreme enabled Various drivers Monitor: ViewSonic A70 1152x864, millions The only issue I have is that the sound level of the internal speaker is too low. But if I really cared about sound, I would hook up external speakers. This forum was well worth the $10, but (as others have noted) it needs a search. I benefitted a great deal from lurking. |
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RE: Working machine profiles... |
June, 26, 2003 5:53 PM |
garforth |
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PowerMac 9600 with XLR8 carrier and G4/450. 394 MB interleaved RAM Slot 1: SIIG ATA 133 IDE 1: WD 80GB SE (4 partitions: OS 10.2.6/ OS 9.2.2/ OS 9.1) IDE 2: LG CD-RW DVD-ROM Slot 2: Belkin USB/Firewire card USB 1: Epson 1520 via serial/USB Belkin cable and GIMP print USB 2: Palm dock Slot 4: Radeon 7000 Mac video card Internal fast SCSI: stock CD-ROM stock 3GB hard drive (carbon copy clone of system disk - bootable) 4GB Barracuda hard drive (OS 9.1) External SCSI: Zip No real problems- Thanks Ryan!! A couple of notes: the L2 cache on the 9600/233 cannot be removed. Ryan's L2 cache config did not disable the motherboard cache, so had to use Powerlogix cache control. OS 10.2.5 was quite slow- probably because of the Belkin USB/Firewire card, which is seen as a hub. 10.2.6 fixed this. |
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RE: Working machine profiles... |
June, 26, 2003 3:44 PM |
powderhaus |
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Umax J700 G4 400 664MB Ram Slot 1:Firewire/USB combo (belkin, i don't recommend this card, it has given me problems almost none stop) 120GB firewire Hard drive (genaric case with an IBM hard drive), a Yamaha CDRW Slot 2: ATI Radeon 32MB DDR RAM mac edition Slots 3-4: will not work under OSX Slots 5-6: N/A on J700 the stock CD drive in the J700 will not boot so i had to use the Apple Software restore to get the CD on a Hard Drive in order to boot. |
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RE: Working machine profiles... |
June, 26, 2003 1:37 PM |
ivanxqz |
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Sorry for the lack of links, but: To use a completely generic FireWire card without additional drivers under Mac OS 8.6 or later (they will not work with earlier versions), you need Apple's two FireWire extensions versions 2.7 or later. These are only available with Mac OS 9.1 (though they may not have been installed on your hardware even if you're running it). You can use TomeViewer to extract them from the 9.2.2 (or 9.2.1 or 9.1) updater. If you are on a laptop, you will also need the FireWire cardbus enabler, but Apple's is not as good as the one you can get in the support area at fwdepot.com, so use that instead. OS X does not require any additional drivers to use a FireWire card, including under XPF. To use a generic USB card under Mac OS 8/9, you need Apple's USB card support 1.4.1. A link is already listed here. OS X (including XPF) does not require any additional drivers though USB2 cards require an EHCI driver for maximum throughput (480 Mbps), Again, links are listed above, though I don't know if they are designed to work only with that vendor's cards. EHCI drivers will probably become a standard part of Mac OS X. With a USB2 card under Mac OS 8/9, you are limited to USB1 speeds (12 Mbps), because there isn't and will likely never be an EHCI driver. Pretty much any FireWire or USB card should be Mac-compatible as long as they are OHCI-compliant, which they pretty much all are. Ivan. |
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RE: Working machine profiles... |
June, 25, 2003 11:15 PM |
fixitjc |
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I did a search for "mac usb pci card" , "mac firewire pci card" or any variation there of also "mac usb 1 pci card" some of the links for drivers I found tonite ( couldn't find my old ref. file) http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=31132 http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106129 http://download.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple_Software_Updates/ English-North_American/Macintosh/USB_Updates/USB_Card_Support_1.4.1.smi.bin http://www.macally.com/techsupport/drivers/USB2EHCI_v108.sit http://www.macally.com/techsupport/drivers/USB2EHCI_v3_1_2.sit Happy hunting |
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RE: Working machine profiles... |
June, 25, 2003 8:23 PM |
voxxdigital |
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Jim, it already helps, thanks, but do you have the links? I mean, there's a lot of places where to search at Apple... does they have OS9/X drivers? In eBay, should I just click a search for USB/firewire? Does these cards have a brand or should I look for the chip only (like the PC Realtek ethernet cards that works in OS9/X)? Thanks again |
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RE: Working machine profiles... |
June, 25, 2003 4:31 PM |
fixitjc |
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the generic USB and Firewire cards I am using are the Cheap cards listed on ebay as PC/Mac compatable and the software is that which is provided by Apple for download hope that helps Jim |
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RE: Working machine profiles... |
June, 25, 2003 3:37 PM |
luiggi.xavier |
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9600 Machcarrier + G3 400 + 1Go RaM +Pioneer U05s |
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RE: Working machine profiles... |
June, 25, 2003 3:33 PM |
voxxdigital |
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OK, OK, hang on. What are these "Generic" USB and Firewire cards? Common cheap PC cards? Or Mac-specific PCI cards? What about the drivers? Anyone can give me details? Please???? BTW, for the sake of knowledge only, I made a dusty stock Power Mac 7300/200 (PPC 604e) with the stock 2MB SCSI HD and stock 32MB of RAM (yes - thirty-two) boot and work with OSX 10.1.5. I can send a screenshot to anyone. Miserably slow, of course, but didn't crash at any time. Actually, I tried to boot with option key pressed, but it refused to boot in OS9 - it chimed again and booted in OSX... |
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RE: Working machine profiles... |
June, 25, 2003 1:03 PM |
ivanxqz |
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PowerBook 2400c w/320 mhz G3 upgrade, 112 MB RAM, Cardbus-enabled In the top slot, we have a MacAlly USB Cardbus card, to which is attached (via hub): Griffin iMic (directly) Samsung ML-1430 laser printer Keyspan Digital Media Remote Griffin PowerMate (cool knob) MacSense WUA-700 802.11b adapter Occasionally, I also attach a Creative Nomad II MG, a Creative Nomad Jukebox, and a little lamp. In the bottom slot, we have a RATOC CB2 FireWire card, to which is attached: Plextor 40x CD-R burner 120 GB hard drive 20 GB iPod (sometimes) The machine is being put to use as an iTunes center (it's attached to my stereo, using the iMic for output), a print server, a ReplayTV server, and a baseball streaming audio server (I wrote a hack to kick off live games provided by MLB.com based on special emails, and the audio output goes to a caller-on-hold box I bought from Radio Shack. Then I dial home, press a couple of numbers, and I'm "on hold," meaning listening to the game over the phone, served by my 2400, so to speak.) I've also seen it work with a Yamaha SCSI CD-R drive. Digital audio extraction (i.e. ripping) did NOT work with a Plextor SCSI CD-ROM drive (but it did with the Yamaha). Ivan. |
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RE: Working machine profiles... |
June, 24, 2003 10:10 PM |
fixitjc |
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Double return spaces between lines |
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RE: Working machine profiles... |
June, 24, 2003 6:19 PM |
mc68k |
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sorry about the crappy formatting...i thought return would skip a line |
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RE: Working machine profiles... |
June, 24, 2003 6:18 PM |
mc68k |
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9600/300 -- [450MHz XLR8 Carrier ZIF] OC'd to 466 w/52 MHz system bus 768MB FPM RAM -- PCI -- Adaptec 29160N U160 SCSI Radeon R7200 32MB DDR FiWi/USB2 Combo -- Internal 5.25" Bays -- SCSI ZIP 100 Yamaha 2100S SCSI CD-RW 16.10.40x Pioneer U05S SCSI DVD-ROM 10.40x Seagate Cheetah X15 15K 18.1GB -- Others -- Rounded U160 Cable Dynamated Case replaced Delta PS Fan w/MDD Papst Replacement Fan Adjustable ADB Keyboard Logitech Cordless MouseMan Optical OS 10.2.6/9.1 QE over PCI |
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