Beige G3 question with XPF?? |
August, 06, 2003 8:50 AM |
jseibyl |
I know a beige G3 is supported in X and does not need XPF to run Jag. I made a backup of my fiancee's disk using cc cloner(2.1.6) onto a hard drive I pull and just put on the shelf in case hers dies. I try not to tinker with her machine, I have enough to play with, and I figure its better in the long run anyway...:-) I partitioned off a 10 gig IDE into 2 5 gig partitions, using the FIRST 5 gig partition for Jag, and the second for her 9.2.2 install. Jag doesn't boot, 9.2.2 is fine. Can I use XPF and install the boot extensions onto the backup and have it boot, even though this machine is "supposed" to be supported natively? Or will this hose the backup?? BTW, I have used the same ver of CCCloner on my machine and I have a bootable clone of jag running. Normally being a "try it and see what happens" kind of guy, I would install the XPF boot extensions it, but considering we are getting married next month, and she is using her mac for wedding stuff, I think it healthier to ask on this one. |
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RE: Beige G3 question with XPF??pbell3 |
August, 08, 2003 4:24 PM |
jseibyl |
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SWEET...THANK YOU :-) |
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RE: Beige G3 question with XPF?? |
August, 08, 2003 1:45 PM |
pbell3 |
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I've done this on my G3 beige. Here's the straight dope. G3 beige is a legacy motherboard (altho Apple will deny it). They got G3's to install OSX via some data stored both in PRAM and on the Apple supplied drive. If you Zap Pram with TechTool then do a low-level format on the drive (or replace it with a non-Apple supplied drive) the OSX installer will work but stuff needed to boot will have been removed,. Fix is to use XPF to install, or to have XPF replace its' relevant files. This provides all of the stuff the G3 needs to get a OSX startup. After that, normal operation (ala Startup Disk in OSX and OS9) results. Hope that helps. |
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RE: Beige G3 question with XPF?? |
August, 07, 2003 12:14 PM |
jseibyl |
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The original install of X on this machine was pure flawless jag-love, It is an xlr8 g4 500 w 768 RAM, 7000, usb, firewire, rest all factory stock. I think I will just leave it for now until after the wedding, all data is there, and since she is not a prop-head at all...really just using jag for games and OS 9.2 for the important stuff (a shame I know, but I moved her from Windoze so taking it nice and easy with her...curious the only games I could find that she likes were for Jag.... ;-) ). Side-note, she HAS come over to the MAC side, but she had a compaq, so not a hard transition...I got sick of keeping that dog running. I have all data in case of a complete bomb and can always reinstall. Thanks for the input, I WILL tinker after all is said n done, You mention the B&W, I know that is another issue all together, and the curiosity to see if I can get XPF to install boot extensions on the backup drive is a very attractive possibility for this machine. I plug the zip back in after I run my backup and just store the drive in an anti-stat bag, so if I do blow up this backup drive, no big deal. |
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RE: Beige G3 question with XPF?? |
August, 07, 2003 11:42 AM |
gregoryy |
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Jag does soemthing during the "preparing drive" and for Beige, creates (writes to disk) a new "virtual" ROM that it will use, so I don't think you'll have much luck. I've tried moving drives from a b&W and it never worked, while installing Jag has never been a problem, even with a fully upgraded Beige (USB/FW, ACARD, UL3S, Radeon Mac or 7000, 768MB PC100 8 ns). Shame it won't take Panther, or I'd put one of the Sonnet G4/1000 in there (if they had a 7457 that would literally be 'cool'). |
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RE: Beige G3 question with XPF?? |
August, 07, 2003 7:22 AM |
jseibyl |
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Thanks, I will try XPF on just the backup disk, removing the main disk first to see what happens, I will let you know, less time than doing a reinstall of jag....thanks for the advice. The gift(G5) that keeps on giving....better than Victoria Secret......kinda...We DO share the same office......:-) |
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RE: Beige G3 question with XPF?? |
August, 06, 2003 5:39 PM |
powderhaus |
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I would try it on the Backup copy of he disk, i would also remove the non-backup disk first. It has been known for the BG3s to not boot correctly and XPF should fix this. I do not know if t would be better to just reinstall OSX using XPF or to just reinstall the extensions. If you mess up her computer you can always get he a G5 for her wedding present ;-) |
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