Is it the burner? |
August, 15, 2003 6:04 PM |
johnbclark |
My USB LaCie burns data CD's with Toast Titanium 5.2.1 fine, but it only burns part way into audio CD's. It consistently plays audio CD's and stutters for a second at 14 seconds, and always hangs at 26 seconds. iTunes doesn't work in OSX but does in OS9. Disk Copy does not work. PM 7300, XLR8 G4/350, 10.2.6 |
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"Big System Morsels" |
August, 25, 2003 7:42 AM |
jseibyl |
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nice.... :-) |
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RE: Is it the burner? |
August, 25, 2003 7:39 AM |
jseibyl |
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I actually love working on the 7300's they are SO much easier to get into than an 8500 or 9500...no bloddy fingers! :-). On the ones I have worked on, they do great, save for the 9.2 ASP bomb. I brought both machines back down to 9.1 and that is that. The owners are not ready to go to X with either of them, and I won't push it. One one of the machines, the guy had a second hard drive that he never even knew exsisted, as it wasn't mounting, so given that, the nice and easy approach is the way to go on those.... I think you are correct about the burner, hopefully the other IDE drive will work for you until that firewire drive shows up.... |
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RE: "Big System Morsels" |
August, 24, 2003 4:06 PM |
johnbclark |
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Brought to you by the same folks that gave you "Making your Macintosh happy" (installer) and "Tripping Hard" (iTunes visualizer - honestly!) :-)) |
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IT"S THE BURNER FROM HELL!! |
August, 24, 2003 4:04 PM |
johnbclark |
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I tried the burner with my friend's iMac, and ASP correctly ID'd it as "fully supported" However, when I tried to play a CD in iTunes, I first got a hang at 14 seconds, and a red iTunes in force quit. In trying to unmount and restart the iMac, I lost all video! Only unplugging the power and restarting brought it back. One more try (sweating with fingers crossed) and I got the "familiar" stutter at 14 seconds and hang at 26 seconds. I have given up on the burner, although I will try using the IDE / ATAPI burner from my friends old PC (YES - she is a switcher!!) in the current LaCie. After all, it is only an IDE with a USB bridge, and that kind of stuff is fun for folks like us! I am putting together pennies for the Mercury Firewire CDRW @$125. Plus, I just realized that I have -3- pci slots (duh), so I dont need a combo USB / Firewire to run the new burner with a USB printer. |
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RE: Is it the burner? |
August, 24, 2003 3:34 PM |
johnbclark |
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I have been out for a few days, so I haven't got to read this in a few... I have at various points used 9.1, 9.2.1, 9.2.2 on my 7300. I ALWAYS get extension errors when I reboot and the setup attempts to run, but I don't remember many other errors in the past. However, in about the third iteration (2 old stock Seagates reached the MTBF) I decided not to use 9.2, since it seemed to become more flaky than I need to deal with. I really don't ever use OS9, and for quite a while all I had was OS X on the drive... I did use Toast Titanium and it does see the burner in 9.1, but even with the Toast extensions I can only got so far into a burn. I also got a bomb every time I quit ASP in 9.2. I will flip over to 9.1 and check ASP for the burner; I am also tweaking an iMAC (slot-loading) for a friend, so I may plug in the burner and see if it is the actual hardware. I don't seem to see the USB card recognized as anything other than a generic PCI card in 10.2.6 ASP. BTW, I think that the 7300 seems to be the most stable platform for upgrading "where no one should go" - I seem to be able to do things that shouldn't be done, and the MAC doesn't complain :) ! |
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RE: Is it the burner? |
August, 21, 2003 7:42 AM |
jseibyl |
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I have a question for you BTW.....you mentioned issues running 9.2... If your take your 7300 to 9.2, does ASP give you an error 10 system bomb?? I have two 7300's I am currently working on, one still a 604e stock, and the other a g4 450. Both have new 256 edo owc ram (2x 128 60ns) NON-interleaved. I tried it running one ram chip, older ram, swapping the ram slots, pram zap, etc. That seems to be the ONLY issue for these 7300s as they are pretty much stock, but it doesn't happen all the time, and I am finding it really annoying to the point where I just might bring them both back to 9.1 and call it a day since they are not my machines......... I have brought 8500's and 9500's up to 9.2 without ANY probs, save a "big system morsels" error(love that one, I have tried to find out EXACTLY what that is, but even the author of OS9 helper is not sure..:-)) on install but just running os9 helper again usually works.... |
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RE: Is it the burner? |
August, 21, 2003 5:49 AM |
jseibyl |
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firewire should give you better speed and reliability, I have an Archos external USB I used to use on my laptop (windoze), sold the laptop, kept the drive. My results with that unit are mixed at best however in my g4 9500, as I can only get a 4X burn(USB speed Limit), Had to go to 5.2.1 in order for Toast just to see it, made some coasters along the way, yada, yada...... I use an external SCSI drive on it now..... I think you will have better luck with firewire. My tinkerings on more than a few 7300's, 8500's, and 9500's have all led me to that conclusion. I have been using that OWC $15 firewire card in my fiancee's beige g3 and have had NO probs with it, so could be a good way to go, though I am VERY curious as to what is going on with your current drive. Is it progressively just getting worse?? If so, then could be the motor finally going south, but hard to say, can you get it to do any writing?? |
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RE: Is it the burner? |
August, 20, 2003 3:58 PM |
johnbclark |
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Actually, Toast does not burn data any more either. I haven't moved to 9.2 (I get more problems than it is worth for the time) to try it, but I KNOW that I used OSX for both data and audio in the pre 10.2 past. I believe that somewhere between 10.1 and 10.1.5 I was able to increase burn speeds reliably. It is not worth going back to 10.1 or 9.2 for a 4x6x8 burner (now do you see why I want the Mercury?). |
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RE: Is it the burner? |
August, 20, 2003 3:54 PM |
johnbclark |
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I did try with one of the Maxell 7 brush cleaners - you know, with the "polarity test", etc. It hung at the same time (26 seconds) although it should have ben cleaned by then - I missed the cool self-promoting "Max tunes" that they thoughtfully include:). In any case, I cannot seem to get over this roadblock. I see the burner ID / type recognized in iTunes and Disc Copy, but not in ASP. I see it in ASP in OS9. Yesh, though, I do have an eye on the OWC Mercury FireWire / USB burner. $125.00 plus a Firewire card for $15 seems cool, as long as it will work (that is another question for these forums). I also posted in other forums (where I can search, but let's not go there!), and saw recommendations for firmware updating. I can only find these in exe files, so I may have to take the burner to work and plug it into the PC's USB. BTW, I have burned in the past from this as well... |
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RE: Is it the burner? |
August, 19, 2003 9:12 PM |
jseibyl |
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Have you tried cleaning the lens?? I know, sounds silly, but ran into a similar prob(bombing at the same time into an audio CD and that worked for me, unless you want a spiffy new burner....... |
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Time for a new burner! |
August, 15, 2003 8:57 PM |
johnbclark |
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Actually, I just tried it in OS 9, and I froze every time that I loaded an audio CD. Time to buy an OWC Mercury??? |
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