SUCCESSFUL OS X.2 install |
October, 22, 2003 9:19 AM |
pollocktodd |
I just wanted to post a thread and thank everyone would contributed questions and answers on this message board. I have a PM 8500/180 with a Newer G3/300, 160 MB RAM, 1 - 2GB SCSI drive, 1 - 4GB SCSI drive, 8X Apple SCSI CD-ROM, PCI video card and a PCI USB/Firewire card. This computer was given to me by my father-in- law, as he recently purchased a G5. When I received this computer, in was in sorry shape. A lot of programs did not work, etc. I took this system to set it up for my kids to play on. It would not install the lastest shockwave and it was only being basically used. I did not have the original CD's with it, but had OS X.2 CD's. These came with OS 9.2, which did me no good. Now on to the upgrade. Since I did not have the original CD's, I was worried about screwing up the half-functioning OS 9.1 and have a completely dead system. I tried using XPostFacto 2.2.5 and installing OS X to my second 4 GB drive. I ran into all kinds of problems with error messages (hang at kmod, still waiting for root device, etc. This is when I decided to pay my 10 bucks and see if I could figure it out here. After 2 days before I came here of basically just monkeying around (I am Microsoft certified and have really never used a MAC), I started reading through all the post. I must agree that a search function would greatly help here, as there is TONS of useful information in these threads. I compiled a list of everything that might be preventing me from upgrading to OS X and came up with a game plan last night. I decided to try everything on my list at once, since I was getting very frustrated and did not want to waste my time doing them one at a time, since this was day 3. This is what I did: I removed all the PCI cards from the system, I checked termination on the internal SCSI chain, and found the CD-ROM was terminated and was the first device in the chain. I un-terminated it. I unplugged my ethernet connection. I then copied the system folder from the 2GB half-working hard drive to my freshly formatted 4 GB hard drive (I did this in the hopes I could pull the half-working drive so I would still have a bootable system in case I really screwed up. To my surprise, by just copying the system folder to the empty drive gave me a bootable system. Now with the 2GB drive pulled from the system and a bootable 4 GB drive in the system, I b0oted into OS 9.1. I was not concerned with upgrading to OS 9.2 and I will not be using classic as like I said, I am new to MACS. I used XPostFacto 3.0a4, selected Input-keyboard, output-monitor, verbose, and throttled to 20 (don't ask me why I chose 20 intead of something else, but it worked). After this, the system started churning after the reboot and I just watched an waited. There were some long pauses, but after these everything seemed to install. Once the 1st disk was installed and the system rebooted, I got a screen with lots of horizontal lines. I turned off the system, hooked back up me 2GB hard drive and booted into OS 9.1. I restared XPostFacto and reinstalled extensions. After a reboot, it bot normally and installed disk 2. Now I had a functioning OS X.2 system. I noticed that the system was a little choppy and slow, and I remembered about L2cacheconfig and installed it. I am very happy with this system running OS X and I'm sure my kids will love it, along with myself. I have been using windows forever, and I must say the I like OS X better than any of them. I couldn't believe how easy it was to setup the DHCP client to pull an IP from my server. Also, it works flawlessly with windows computers. I am very impressed and again, I thanks everyone for their valuable input. Todd |
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RE: SUCCESSFUL OS X.2 install |
October, 23, 2003 10:04 PM |
dcoyle |
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Glad to have you on board. I'm no MSCE, but I use a lot of MS products at work where I am the local VMS guru. I went shopping for a new PC and, on a whim, decided to check out what the hell a Mac was, since my boy was using them at school. I was blown away by what System 7 offered compared to Windows 3.1. I was the first guy in my part of the state to become the proud owner of a PowerMac 7500 with a 100 MHz processor and 16 whole megabytes of RAM. Not only that, but, if I wanted, I could upgrade my VRAM to 4 whole MB!!! This far surpassed the EGA PCs out there with 66 MHz Pentium? (what the hell is that) processors - Win 95 was still months from being available and the Stones weren't yet singing about it. Anyway, here I am still using this old POS, only it's got a 300 MHz G3 and Ryan's software still keeping it alive. I actually did max out my VRAM but I'm way short of what it takes to use Quartz Extreme. I've got no real complaints about the NT, w2k, and XP shit I deal with at work, but I LOVE coming home to my Mac - still. I honestly can't justify my feelings about my Mac on a rational basis, but so what. I think OS X is the coolest thing I have ever seen. My dream now is a dual G5 speed demon to replace my cobbled-together old Mac so I can browse this forum at lightspeed. The fact that I have what I have kind of gives you an idea of what a "VMS guru" makes these days. Anyway, cheers and enjoy the ride. |
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RE: SUCCESSFUL OS X.2 install |
October, 23, 2003 9:19 AM |
jseibyl |
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I think the beauty of X is that it has the elegance and stability of a top notch OS, WITH the tweakability of Linux, best of both worlds. I have to agreed about XP being a dog, I have a dual proc video workstation running 2k pro and xp pro. I would have dumped XP pro except for my dvd build software that does not give me a preview in 2k, but does in XP. That is all I use XP for. For my video stuff, 2k is great, though I am saving my pennies for the dual g5....... |
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RE: SUCCESSFUL OS X.2 install |
October, 23, 2003 9:01 AM |
pollocktodd |
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I agree....OS X is a really fun OS. When I worked at Compaq, I was testing XP in beta stages to make sure it was going to work properly with our BIOS. From this day forward, I never really liked XP. Either because of the litterally hundreds of bugs or the fact that it seems like the faster computer you have, the slower it runs. Now that I am with a DRAM company we do the majority of our testing in DOS, so it really is a treat to use something as new and refreshing as OS X. I think I may start colecting OW MACs and start a fleet of MAC, since I really do enjoy the challenges these older machines bring with OS X. |
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RE: SUCCESSFUL OS X.2 install |
October, 23, 2003 1:17 AM |
smwalker |
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I am cross platform too, my latest pc being an Abit IC7-G motherboard with 800mhz front side bus and a 2.6 ghz pentium 4 with hyperthreading and 800mhz front side bus compatable, scsi hard drives, and a full tower with antec 550 watt true power supply. But, my favorite computers are my 7500 with 7600 motherboard and my 9600 pci powermacs. They are fun computers, both running OSX. The 7600 was an easy install, the 9600 tough. Glad to have you on board. I cut my teeth on an old mac II ci and got frustrated when I got a 6100 powermac which my daughter took to college ... what an abomination. I got fed up with macs, but now OSX is fun, fun, fun and powerful to boot. |
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RE: SUCCESSFUL OS X.2 install |
October, 22, 2003 10:02 AM |
jseibyl |
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BTW, if you are wondering exactly why I did this, I gotta play "Reach for the Stars", only the original mac version will do and it just flies on the Athlon......... |
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RE: SUCCESSFUL OS X.2 install |
October, 22, 2003 9:59 AM |
jseibyl |
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Welcome to the light(NOT DARK) side! ;-) Glad it works for you, I am cross-platform, and I think OSX is the BEST and most stable OS out there.... If you really want to have some fun, you can turn a PC into a MAC with an emulator called Basilisk. It does NOT do anything higher than OS8 (pre-PowerPC chip) but it is loads of fun and runs very well on an Athlon 1 ghz game machine I have. For added fun, toss a shortcut into your startup folder and have it boot directly into the mac OS, this blows the minds of PC and MAC people that don't know about it. I also have an original mac HFS formatted disk attached to a scsi card in the thing, that I boot from. Who says we all can't get along..... Jim |
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