Initio MilesU2W & HDT, 2 strikes, I know, but... |
September, 16, 2002 2:48 PM |
mikael0497 |
I've installed Jaguar on my old 9500, thanks to the most excellent Xpostfacto. It's on an old 4gig SCSI drive connected to the internal bus (previously used for several failed Linux installs). I was suprised to say the least when she booted! The systems been upgraded with: XLR8 carrier card + 500G3 cpu; 1.15gig of RAM; a Sonnet USB/Firewire PCI card; a MilesU2W connected to an 18gig IBM Ultra 160 HD; a Rage Orion video card. I was very pleased to find the Sonnet card worked with my FW drives; however, my Miles/IBM drive combo is not recognized. Has anyone had any luck with this card in this system under X? I tried the beta firmware on Initio's site, but that left me with no access to the drive in either OS9 or OSX (thank god for the backflash utility). As mentioned in the subject, the drive is formatted with HDToolkit 4.5. I'm not thrilled by the prospect of installing Apple drivers, but will if someone's had luck with that combination. If no one's gotten the Miles2 to work, are there any cards out there that do work in this box with an LVD drive? That don't cost an arm and a leg (ATTO is a bit pricey)? |
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RE: Initio MilesU2W & HDT, 2 strikes, I know, but. |
September, 19, 2002 2:25 PM |
mikael0497 |
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Tim, No CD burner here. I do have three FW drives, but I didn't think they were bootable from the 9500 (due to the PCI card interface; they will boot my TiBook). I'll check it out this weekend. I was nearly ready to just go for it until getting the 10.2.1 update last night. It went smoothly, but, as I usually do, I jumped back into 9 to run DiskWarrior/Norton DD and SD. Major errors were found (and fixed), but the thought of not being able to fall back was a bit unnerving. (On a side note, I did the same on this 667TiBook after the update and got similar errors...don't know if it's X or Norton & DW not dealing with X correctly when run from 9) Thanks again for your time. /mike |
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RE: Initio MilesU2W & HDT, 2 strikes, I know, but. |
September, 19, 2002 12:01 AM |
rettink |
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Mike, You sound like you were in the position I was in when I first got X.2. There is a chance to be stuck and not to be able to boot either drive, thanks Mile :-(. Two options that worked for me were. 1. Creating a OS9 bootable CD with the intio drivers on the cd 2. A non-customized OS9.1 CD that supports firewire and keep the initio firmware and apps on the firewire drive. It doesn't look like you have #2 so is there a chance you could create a custom CD? I have 3 36g cheetahs connected to the miles card, a 80g firewire drive connected to a firewiredirect combo USB/Firewire card (the only one I could get to work reliably betwen 9 and X) and no drives conncted to the internal drive. One Cheetah has 9.1 installed another 9.0 and X.2 on the third. If you somehow can make a custom bootable OS9 CD (with the firmware on it) you should be able to go without the internal drive. :-) And yes I am using HDST 3.5 driver on all three drives. Hope this helps Tim |
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RE: Initio MilesU2W & HDT, 2 strikes, I know, but. |
September, 18, 2002 12:59 PM |
mikael0497 |
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Greg, Thanks. It seems I've managed to do it backwards (x.2 on the internal and 9 on the MilesU2W). If you've got the patience, read on: My current set-up: Internal bus: 4gig with OSX on a 3gig partition and OS9 on the remaining 1gig. PCI/MilesU2W: 18gig with multiple partitions including 2 separate OS9 partitions. So if I were to flash the Miles and install X on one of its attached drive's partitions I would be able to boot from it and see the internal drive. I could select the internal drive and reboot into 9, but, once booted on the internal drive, I wouldn't be able to see the Miles attached drive, correct? If booted from the internal drive, XPF wouldn't see the Miles drive and I'd be stuck? Or, would booting into X (using XPF) on the 2nd partition of the internal drive allow me to see the Miles-attacted drive? My worry is ending up with a box that can't see either or boot from either. Though I suppose as long as there's an OS9 system on the internal bus, I should always be able to get back to it. (I've got an unsupport CD drive, so booting from an OS9 install CD isn't an answer--or wasn't the last time I tried it.) Patience may be a virtue in this case. I should probably wait for Initio to come up with drivers that work on both OSs. ...But I probably won't... Thanks, and by the way, I hadn't seen the other Miles thread... Is there a quick way to find it, or do I just work my way back through the threads? /mike |
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RE: Initio MilesU2W & HDT, 2 strikes, I know, but. |
September, 18, 2002 10:41 AM |
g2 |
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Yes, you'll need to backflash to boot to OS9. you could get another hard drive to run OS9 off the internal bus, and keep the Miles2 to run X.2 only. there was a thread a while back about HDT and the incompatibilities it had with OSX. Most just ended up reinitializing the drive with Apple's Drive Setup. the other threaded Miles2 topic has some good info as well, as I'm sure you've read by now. cheers! Greg |
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RE: Initio MilesU2W & HDT, 2 strikes, I know, but. |
September, 18, 2002 9:35 AM |
mikael0497 |
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Tim, Thanks for the info. If I understand your message, once I flash the Miles, I'm stuck in X.2 unless I backflash? It's tempting (I'd forgotten how slow that internal drive is...), but I'd still like to boot back into 9 for maintenance (DiskWarrior, Norton) when needed. Oh, and are you using Apple's drivers? If you installed using XPF, I guess you must be (at least on the boot drive). I've got other issues with X.2 on that system before I jump to it full time, so I hope I misunderstood the "backflash to 9". Thanks again. /mike |
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RE: Initio MilesU2W & HDT, 2 strikes, I know, but. |
September, 17, 2002 8:23 PM |
rettink |
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Yes, finally in an 8500, upgraded as follows: NewerTech G4/400mhz PCI: initio MilesU2W 36g IBM Ultra 2 x 36g Seagate Cheetah Ultras PCI: Radeon Mac Edition 32mb PCI: Firewiredirect 3/3 firewire/USB card (took me three tries to find one that worked in both 9 and X) SCSI: Hitatchi DVD-RAM drive SCSI EXT: Yahmaha CDRW FIREWIRE: 80g Oxford chipset And the kicker... no drives connected to the internal narrow SCSI bus! All the above hardware works in 9.1 9.2.2 and OSX.2 Don't know what might be causing the problem but here's what I had to do: Get the latest driver from initio, the one that says it explicitly support X.2 (this one finally allowed me to boot from any drive connected to the miles card in X.2). Flash the firmware within OS9 wih the latest firmware patch. Use Xpostfacto to reinstall the extensions on the starup drive and the card should be seen when in X.2. If you've made it that far and want to go back to OS9 you'll need to backflash to 9 before rebooting to 9. But the latest patch from initio won't allow you to backflash to 9 within X.2 so you'll also nee the (latest - 1) to backflash to 9. Hope this helps Tim |
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