9500/G4 OX X 10.2 |
January, 12, 2003 4:15 PM |
tclare |
So, I finally got around to trying to stuff OS X onto my 9500, which has been running quite solidly for years now. Specifics: PowerMac 9500/132, when I got it it had a 225 in it, has had an overclocked PowerLogix G4/400 in it for nearly a year running very solidly. 1.5 GB RAM (AFAIK, they're all FPM DIMMS) 2GB Seagate w/ OS 9.1 loaded 4.2GB IBM Ultrastar (trying to load X on this) XPostFacto seemed to work very well at first. I successfully launched the installer, got through CD1 with no problems. Then, when it rebooted to CD2, it got about 95% of the way, then when writing it gave the wonderful OS X "Guess what, restart your computer x 10languages" message. Tried it twice more, same thing happened. So I tried to reboot to OS9 to restart the install from scratch. Won't load now. Tried all the recommended steps... option, DOCS, zap PRAM, reset CUDA, etc. Tried unplugging both harddrives and booting straight off an OS9 CD. Won't work. Suggestions on how to at least get the system running back off 9, if not figure out why X stalled while installing? |
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RE: 9500/G4 OX X 10.2 |
January, 13, 2003 2:34 PM |
tclare |
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Got the boot floppy from PowerLogix tech support... fixed the booting problem... ran the installer with no problems... currently dl'ing the 10.2.3 update :D Don't know what went whacko the first time, but it's humming along great now. Nice and snappy performance too. All that RAM helps. I'm surprised even then though, considering this has the original ATI 4MB card in it :D Thanks for the suggestions, even though I managed to work this out on my own. |
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RE: 9500/G4 OX X 10.2 |
January, 13, 2003 11:27 AM |
marcush |
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get Sonnet tech support to email you a disk image of their emergency boot disk. Or, if you prefer, I can email you a copy when I get home tonight. I've got emergency boot disk images for all of the processors I've had, Powerlogix, Xlr8, Sonnet. They all work. Let me know. |
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RE: 9500/G4 OX X 10.2 |
January, 13, 2003 11:06 AM |
tclare |
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Confirmed that the 9500 boots fine with a stock 604e in it, and the drives are fine. Still get flashing disk with the G4 in... presumably somehow speculative access got turned on on the processor? Maybe? Only thing left I can think of is to use the emergency boot disk... which of course, is nowhere to be found, and PowerLogix' downloads dont have a copy of the disk image. Ideas? |
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RE: 9500/G4 OX X 10.2 |
January, 13, 2003 8:52 AM |
tclare |
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As of this morning... Had X loaded fine on the 7300 using different disks. My intial thought is that it's possible the HD I was installing X on was wonky, though I'd been using it before... I hadn't ever had much data on it, so there might've been bad sectors or something. The processor I doubt is an issue, even though OC'd as I just bumped the clock multiplier up, the bus speed is standard 50, and the 9500 has never had issues with it. I run lots of 3D software that strains the system, so I'd think it'd've shown up by now if there was any weakness there. If I can't get the 9500 working again... my only thought is maybe it's a really early ROM version that maybe Open Firmware is screwy on? Anyone else been running this much junk on a board that's that old? |
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RE: 9500/G4 OX X 10.2 |
January, 13, 2003 3:54 AM |
mjoecups358 |
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Wow this forum is screwy looking in Safari if not elsewhere.... Good idea with th 7300... See if you can install on there... Strange that the 9500 would install up to disk 2 ? Maybe just an unfortunate coincidence of crash? Good Luck, Marty |
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RE: 9500/G4 OX X 10.2 |
January, 12, 2003 6:03 PM |
tclare |
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Yeah. I'm going to try that kind of thing later, as I hate mucking around inside 9500's. I took both drives that I was using and stuck them seperately into one of the spare 7300's I had lying around... the original boot drive mounted fine, so that wasn't a problem, and the 4.2GB drive mounted as well and appears to have all of the files on it. I'm going to try loading X on the drive inside the 7300... none of the hardware other than the drives, and the processor will be the same, so if the same problem happens that should isolate it a bit more. |
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RE: 9500/G4 OX X 10.2 |
January, 12, 2003 5:44 PM |
jslewis |
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sorry grammer: the installer has setup a bogus blessed folder that it tries to boot off of before forking up the NVRAM. |
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RE: 9500/G4 OX X 10.2 |
January, 12, 2003 5:41 PM |
jslewis |
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I bet the reason you can't currently boot OS9 is that the osx installer has setup bogus blessed a folder it tries to boot off of before forking up the nvram. Disconnect the drive you tried to install osx onto, then zap the pram see if that gets you back booting 9. If so then set a good disk as your startup disk. Shutdown and reconnect the drive you tried to install OSX onto and move the 4K "fake finder" outside /system/library/coreservices/ or figure out how to debless the core services folder. Don't delete the Finder.app in core services. If you want to try to install OSX again consider loosing the overclock on the powerlogix G3 and doing a bus speed of 50mhz or lower, at least long enough to install. Also see if there isn't a way to load L2 software for OSX so that the L2 is setup properly during the second part of the install. |
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