XPF and Carbon Copy Cloner |
January, 29, 2003 10:31 PM |
jonz |
Anyone able to use CCC with an XPF upgraded 7600 ? |
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RE: XPF and Carbon Copy Cloner |
February, 21, 2003 2:56 PM |
nees |
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pbiek, you probably should start an independent thread, as the cabonlib and carbon copy cloner are separate issues What I remember of carbonlib is the following. The carbonlib is an extension. That is a file type that goes into the extensions folder of the OS9 System folder. Programs that are "carbonized" can run in either OS9 or OSX. However, OS9 needs the carbonlib extension to run these programs. XPF probably needs this extension file loaded into the extensions folder of the OS9 system folder that is the startup disk for running the XPF program. As for me, the cold startup problem for the cloned OSX system on my new hard drive went away, but I have no idea why. |
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RE: XPF and Carbon Copy Cloner |
February, 19, 2003 4:33 PM |
pbieck |
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I got the message "the application "XPostfacto" could not be opened because "CarbonLib--CFURLCreateFromFSRef" could not be found. What did I do not correctly? any suggestions? Thanks Peter |
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RE: XPF and Carbon Copy Cloner |
February, 19, 2003 11:59 AM |
nees |
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I finally achieved success with CCC. I went back and partitioned with the drive setup of OS 9.2.1. I got a perfectly booting system. I have only one problem, and that is it will not return to OSX on restart. Anyway, thanks joevt for the suggestion that finally led me to try to repartition. |
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RE: XPF and Carbon Copy Cloner |
February, 10, 2003 10:09 AM |
nees |
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I tried erasing the partition when I was OS 9.1, and it still did not give me a bootable 10.1.5 copy after again cloning it with CCC from the start up disk. I initially partitioned with the disk utility in 10.1.5. I noticed in another thread that there may be an incompatibility for boot up between Western Digital drives with 8 MB cache when CCC is used. (CCC worked fine for me with a WD drive, 8 MB cache at work, but that was a new world machine). CCC did work when I used it to copy 10.1.5 over to a different partition on the same drive as the start up 10.1.5 partition, (a Seagate Barracuda 40 Gb ide). So this a particular issue with this drive set up I think. I did notice a report on the xlr8 site that one other person had boot up problems with an 80 Gb WD SE 8 MB drive hooked to a Sonnet 100 ide card ( on a B&W machine). He seemed to be doing a clean install. Anyway, thanks for the input joevt. I take it that you got CCC to work, right? (If so, good!). |
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RE: XPF and Carbon Copy Cloner |
February, 07, 2003 1:17 AM |
joevt |
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Never mind. It's probably a time zone thing I never noticed before. That forum login preference mix-up made me paranoid. :) |
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RE: XPF and Carbon Copy Cloner |
February, 07, 2003 12:23 AM |
joevt |
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Why does my last post say February, 07, 2003 12:20 AM? The current time is Feb 6, 10:19 PM |
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RE: XPF and Carbon Copy Cloner |
February, 07, 2003 12:20 AM |
joevt |
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nees, The posts from bralston were from me. There was a problem with the cookie or whatever that keeps track of login name and password for the forum. I think it might have had something to do with the forum for OS9Forever which I looked at for the first time recently. Anyway, erasing the partitions in 9.1 worked for me after I used the OS X Disk Utility to initialize and partition my ATA drive. The reason I used the OS X Disk Utility in the first place is because it installs OS 9 drivers for FireWire, SCSI and IDE. The OS 9 Drive Setup only installs one OS 9 driver so the ATA drive can only be moved to the same kind of interface as it was initialized on. I think the OS X Disk Utility doesn't set up the HFS+ partition in a way that makes it bootable on OldWorld machines. Erasing the partition with the OS 9 Finder sets it up so that it can be booted. I haven't checked to see what exactly the difference is but the current theory has something to do with the HFS wrapper. |
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Now Carbon Copy Cloner worked fine! |
February, 06, 2003 12:34 PM |
uwe |
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Hi all, below I posted CCC wouldn´t work for bootable volumes but as "nees" posted, I forgot to "Bless Old World Target Disk" in the CCC's menu under "File". Today I tried it again at a fresh formatted SCSI-volume (HDST) on external bus and after booting first in OS 9 choosing the new volume by XPF it booted very well... Thank you nees, uwe |
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RE: XPF and Carbon Copy Cloner |
February, 05, 2003 7:54 PM |
jonz |
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Sorry, my reference to the developer was to Bombich, not Ryan - I mistakenly thought I was on the Bombich forum (from where I have had NO replies at all) at the time of that posting. Anyway, after repeated launches of CCC I finally made out that the file needed was /usr/bin/mktemp. Any thoughts, anyone ? |
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RE: XPF and Carbon Copy Cloner |
February, 05, 2003 1:21 PM |
jonz |
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I may have not made myself clear in earlier posts - I cannot get CCC to successfully run at all - the app quits immediately following the very brief appearance of that alert window suggesting I get some file. So brief (like 2 secs) that I cannot read the alert even. Perhaps the developer can offer an opinion ? |
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RE: XPF and Carbon Copy Cloner |
February, 05, 2003 11:51 AM |
nees |
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For clarity on the last message, these are the preferences in CCC and can be found under the CCC menu. |
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RE: XPF and Carbon Copy Cloner |
February, 05, 2003 11:48 AM |
nees |
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Thanks for the suggestion Bralston, I'll try it tonight. Do you know why this might work? As I remember, the BSD subsystem is performed on the full install, but I had another couple of ideas Jonz. I do not know if you are trying to clone 10.2.x or 10.1.x, however; Use version CCC 2.1.2 only to clone 10.2.x and 1.3.1 only with 10.1.X. Also, check your prefernces and make sure that you do not have synchronization turned on in the preferences the first time you copy. (This requires psync to be installed on your system). Otherwise it will look for files to synchronize with on the target disk I believe. |
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RE: XPF and Carbon Copy Cloner |
February, 05, 2003 2:28 AM |
jonz |
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No, I have done a full install. How does one know if the BSD subsystem is installed - it doesn't show up on "Find file". Since I can activate file sharing, I presume it is installed (isn't that one of its functions ?) John |
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RE: XPF and Carbon Copy Cloner |
February, 04, 2003 5:03 PM |
joevt |
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The last two messages were from me. I had to log out to fix it. Sorry bralston. |
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RE: XPF and Carbon Copy Cloner |
February, 04, 2003 4:58 PM |
bralston |
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That last message to nees was from me, not bralston. I'm not sure how my preferences got screwed up. |
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RE: XPF and Carbon Copy Cloner |
February, 04, 2003 4:49 PM |
bralston |
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nees, try using the "Erase Disk..." command in the Mac OS 9.1 Finder (choose "Mac OS X Extended" format) on the partitions you created with the OS X Disk Utility. Then go back to OS X and try CCC again and tell us if that makes them bootable. |
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RE: XPF and Carbon Copy Cloner |
February, 04, 2003 8:38 AM |
nees |
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I do not think your missing file is the bootX file. CCC will copy over whatever it finds and you allow to be copied. The only thing I could think of was wether you installed the BSD subsystem. I believe that CCC relies on the unix line command "Ditto". If you did a custom install, and excluded the BSD subsystem, the appropriate files to execute this command might be missing. |
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RE: XPF and Carbon Copy Cloner |
February, 03, 2003 8:21 PM |
jonz |
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Thanks for you inputs. Specifically my problem was that CCC would appear only briefly in the form of an alert noting that some file was missing, recommending I get it, and then abruptly quitting. So abrupt that I don't get time to see which file, but maybe it is the bootX file referred to by nees. [7600/NewertechG4350/ATI Radeon Mac Edition/304MbRAM] |
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RE: XPF and Carbon Copy Cloner |
February, 03, 2003 3:02 PM |
matti.haveri |
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Carbon Copy Cloner 1.3.1 (Mac OS 10.1.5) clones OK from an IDE partition to another IDE partition or an internal SCSI partition. It also worked when I used a mounted Disc Copy image file as an intermediate step. I have 9.1 and 10.1.5 test partitions so I can test some software before installing them on my main partitions. Just a few days ago this saved me from a lot of grief when I noticed that iMovie 3.0.1 is a total disaster with my setup (iMovie 2.1.1 is OK). Setup: 8600/XLR8 G4 450, 416MB RAM, 75G Deskstar@Sonnet Tempo ATA100, Firewire Direct FW&USB. |
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RE: XPF and Carbon Copy Cloner |
February, 03, 2003 10:28 AM |
nees |
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I have tried using CCC on a 7600 upgraded with a NewerTech 350 G4. I have 10.1.5 on a Seagate 7200 IDE hooked through an Acard 66. I have tried cloning 10.1.5 to a SCSI on the internal SCSI chain and to a Western Digital IDE SE hooked to the Acard IDE PCI card, both without success. The copying seems to go fine, but the 10.1.5 copies are not bootable. The SCSI and WD were newly formated by Disk Utility that came with 10.1.5 (and I included the OS9 drivers). I looked at Bombich's site, and I noticed that cloning OS10 on old world machines can be a problem. I did not understand the technical issues, but it was something about having to copy over the bootX file, and the ability upon startup for the computer to locate this file. Apparently, this locations needs to be stored in NVRAM? Anyway it is handled better by "New World" machines, and by 10.2 than by "Old World" machines (like ours) and 10.1.5. I tried reinstalling BootX by Xpostfactor, and this did not help either. I would suggest that if you have 10.2, be sure to use the "Bless Old World Target Diskr" in the CCC's menu under "File". If you are using 10.1.5 and successfully clone, count yourself lucky and let us know how you do it. david_is_n |
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RE: XPF and Carbon Copy Cloner |
January, 31, 2003 12:50 PM |
gchron |
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I can use CC with no problems between two SCSI hard disks. No any problem to boot from both of them |
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RE: XPF and Carbon Copy Cloner |
January, 31, 2003 8:44 AM |
mitch707 |
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Twice I've tried cloning 10.2.3 to another drive without success. First time: SCSI 4.5GB to IDE 20GB. Last night: 20GB(fresh install) to 80GB IDE. Got hung up @ 'creating Darwin links'. The drivers that come with Jaguar are good enough to create a bootable IDE drive and all works well with a 'clean' install - Mitch |
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RE: XPF and Carbon Copy Cloner |
January, 31, 2003 3:57 AM |
gordner |
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Succeeded to clone a working and bootable copy of OS 10.2.3 to another partition of my HD. But haven't tried to clone it to another disk. |
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RE: XPF and Carbon Copy Cloner |
January, 31, 2003 2:24 AM |
uwe |
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I tried to save my well running OS X.2.3 from internal SCSI-bus #0 to another fresh formatted (HDST) SCSI volume at external SCSI-bus #2. CCC worked through the process until the end, but the new volume does not boot. After a long time with black monitors it jumps to a OS 9.2 startsytem. (PPC 8500/G4-400,576MB RAM, USB-FireWire-combocard, Formac Pro Media) I thaught CCC would be a good tool to copy bootable OS X volumes? |