Original ATI Radeon Mac Edition & OS X |
December, 15, 2002 6:38 PM |
rpjallan |
I have a PM7300 at the moment running 10.1.5. I have just acquired an original ATI Radeon PCI Mac Edition which is supposed to be a better card than the 7000. Does anyone have any experience running OS X on one of these video cards? |
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RE: Original ATI Radeon Mac Edition & OS X |
December, 23, 2002 4:49 PM |
joevt |
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Neither did I until I tried it. |
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RE: Original ATI Radeon Mac Edition & OS X |
December, 23, 2002 5:58 AM |
tempest |
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joevt: Thanks for this interesting tidbit. When I asked XPF to use *_A, the display comes up immediately just like the built-in video. I didn't realize that if I only have one display attached, I needed to set _A as the display rather than _B. |
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RE: Original ATI Radeon Mac Edition & OS X |
December, 22, 2002 6:43 PM |
joevt |
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tempest, I didn't get a black screen on my Radeon 7000 using the DVI connector with VGA adapter when I set the output-device to ATY,RV100ad_A instead of _B. If you have only one monitor connected to the 7000 then choose _A. If you have two, then choose _A for the VGA connector or _B for the DVI connector. If you want to use the TV out connector, then you can't use the DVI connector at the same time because they are considered the same (you will see the same image on both but the image on the monitor connected to the DVI connector will be discolored). Also, Open Firmware output- device defaults to 640x480@60Hz progressive. You won't see a proper TV signal until the blue screen. What you will see, during startup, is two gray apple's side by side because two progressive scan lines are drawn in the same amount of time as a single interlaced scan line. If you are running in verbose mode, then the TV will not be able to sync correctly when the messy text begins. It will re-sync when the ATI driver kicks in and notices that you have used the TV out connector instead of the DVI connector and switches to NTSC frequencies (640x480@30Hz divided into interlaced frames of 640x240@60Hz). mknagata, You don't need to boot into open firmware. There is an "Open Firmware" menu in the XPostFacto application menu bar. But FYI, if you really want to, to get into Open Firmware, press command-option O-F during start-up or turn off the auto-boot? option in XPostFacto. Read Apple technotes 1061, 1062, 1044 for more info. |
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RE: Original ATI Radeon Mac Edition & OS X |
December, 19, 2002 5:14 PM |
rpjallan |
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Thanks for all your comments. |
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RE: Original ATI Radeon Mac Edition & OS X |
December, 19, 2002 3:29 PM |
tempest |
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No it doesn't. But then I'm using the DVI connector w/ VGA adaptor. |
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RE: Original ATI Radeon Mac Edition & OS X |
December, 19, 2002 2:47 PM |
mjoecups358 |
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There is a firmware update for radeon 7000 PCI today 12/19/2002. I think this will fix the below mentioned "black screen" on boot issue without doing any open firmware hacking... Marty |
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RE: Original ATI Radeon Mac Edition & OS X |
December, 18, 2002 4:06 PM |
powderhaus |
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Open fireware is an option in XPF. I think you will see the differece if you enable quartz extream on them both. The 7000 is said to dump more on the prossesor than the origanal. I have the origanal with Quartz extream enabled and it put the GUI speed right up there with OS9. |
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RE: Original ATI Radeon Mac Edition & OS X |
December, 18, 2002 3:18 PM |
mknagata |
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joevt, Thanks for the tip!!! Just one dumb question... how do I boot into open firmware on my G4-enabled 7600? |
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RE: Original ATI Radeon Mac Edition & OS X |
December, 18, 2002 1:38 AM |
joevt |
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mknagata, in XPostFacto set the output-device in the Open Firmware menu to ATY,RV100ad_A to get the gray apple to show on the 7000. I have both cards as well. The faster original card is in my faster B&W G3 and the slower 7000 is in my 8600. |
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RE: Original ATI Radeon Mac Edition & OS X |
December, 16, 2002 12:44 AM |
mknagata |
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I own both the original Radeon and a 7000. Both perform well in my 7600 w/G4 upgrade and Mac OS 10.2.2. However, I have the older Radeon installed for a simple, aesthetic reason: During the bootup sequence, the older Radeon displays the startup screen of "Gray apple symbol plus rotating circle", while with the 7000 installed I get no display whatsoever until the blue startup screen appears (about 2 minutes into the startup sequence). But performance wise, I'm hard pressed to see any difference between the two, including DVD playback performance. |
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RE: Original ATI Radeon Mac Edition & OS X |
December, 15, 2002 10:23 PM |
rorlin |
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Funny you should ask. I just bought one Saturday at the Washington Apple Users Group Garage Sale (got a bargain for $35). It runs beautifully. I downloaded the October 2002 Radeon installation program from ATI and it has definitely speeded up screen writes. I'm running OS 10.2.2 without any problems. Good luck. |