10.2.3 |
December, 20, 2002 9:12 AM |
kbata |
Just installed 10.2.3 and all seems OK so far. Sound still cuts out if you run VCP while it's playing and doesn't come back until you reboot. I hit it hard this time by having the disk utility repairing permissions and starting up WIN XP at the same time. It seems to handle this better than previous versions of Jaguar but it still does it. That has been my only issue with Jaguar so I can't complain to much about that. |
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RE: 10.2.3 |
December, 31, 2002 8:00 PM |
avit |
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Sorry Ryan, I was too pressed to get it to "work" to do any debugging... I ended up doing an archive & install with a clean 10.2 which then upgraded flawlessly. Andrew |
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RE: 10.2.3 |
December, 28, 2002 4:54 PM |
woody_k891 |
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My system is a PC PowerWave 604/132 upgraded with a Sonnet 450 Crescendo. I installed Jaguar and then upgraded to 10.2.3 on Christmas day. Every thing went GREAT. After two restarts (after self inflicted shutdowns) and a Startup Disk return to OS 9.1, the system will not respond to the Startup Disk X for a return to OS 10.2.3. I am stuck not able to get to 10.2.3. Also, the system is very reluctant to even boot into 9.1. Some times I must resort to the G4 Pram Restore Disk from Sonnet. I sure did enjoy playing with the cat (Jaguar). |
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RE: 10.2.3 |
December, 26, 2002 8:54 PM |
OSXGuru |
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avit: if you get the kernel panic that mentions AppleGrandCentral again, I would be very interested in looking at the text (assuming you have time to copy it down). |
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RE: 10.2.3 |
December, 26, 2002 4:29 PM |
jeglin |
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>But there is still the DNS error, where the web browser stops finding URL's >until one toggles the sys pref/network pane's DNS setup (or reboots). >I'm surprised apple hasn't fixed this major bug that they introduced in 10.2.2. This has been discussed on the susworks list by P Sichel (author of IPNetMonitor et al.). First, a slightly more elegant fix *appears* to be to just flush the cache (and either this or the kill could be set up as a cron job): lookupd -flushcache Second, apparently the "bug" has been around a lot longer than 10.2.2. The culprit is the lookup daemon itself, which appears to be one hell of a piece of shi^H^H^H legacy code that network hackers seem surprised (shocked?) that Apple continues to ship with OSX/Darwin. Among other things, the one that I have run into a lot, due to running my own dns, is that it drops parts of certain dns responses. FWIW, when you enter dns server IPs into the Network prefs panel, it turns out that your box is not talking directly to them. It is instead hardcoded to talk to lookupd, which apparently is supplied by Apple having been compiled with the --mangle directive on. lookupd than parses to you (more precisely, to the app that initiated the lookup to begin with) the info it gets from the dns server, with poor results at best. The most common is the one Paul cites. And it totally ruins reverse lookups that are delegated via RFC2713. Apparently, lookupd is the main reason why Peter wrote his own routines (that skip lookupd) for this purpose in IPNM-X. No word on when Apple might buy a clue. Maybe it's going to be the premiere announcement at Macworld SF? Other than the one of course which purposely breaks XPF because Steve doesn't like us playing with his OS on older machines, expecially those ^&%#$ clones he went to so much trouble to eliminate! jeglin <- proudly running OSX (albeit slowly) on a PTP, the best Mac Apple never made. |
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RE: 10.2.3 |
December, 23, 2002 4:07 AM |
twoolley |
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I have read that Speedrun graphics tests are not that reliable, and are meaningless unless resolution/color depth are specified. For example, DBreul below reported a G4 350/Radeon 7000 graphics score of 180 on Speedrun with 10.2.3. I wonder if he got that score with a Radeon 7000 at millions of colors? I have not seen such a score with my PTP Sonnet G4800/Radeon 7000. I do get scores of 195-205 consistently at thousands of colors after the last Radeon Firmware Flash and upgrading to 10.2.3, and 120-150 at millions of colors. Nic Waller, I am sure, recognizes the need for more accurate/ complete reporting in Speedrun before graphics tests with other machines can be compared. However it is useful to test various configurations on one upgraded machine. Real world tests still tell me that my Radeon is faster with the flash, and the 10.2.3 GUI is obviously faster. |
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RE: 10.2.3 |
December, 22, 2002 11:13 PM |
powderhaus |
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Works great for me. I have a J700 G4 400 408mb ram origanal radeon. It added about 5 points to graphics. Disapointing realy. it did not fix the iTunes problem(extreamly slow visualiser after 10.2.1, went from about 30-40 FPS to 8FP |
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RE: 10.2.3 |
December, 22, 2002 7:51 PM |
avit |
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Just a warning to everyone: I ran the update and it rendered my machine unbootable. It reports a kernel panic, something about AppleGrandCentral in the backtrace. Weird. Anyway, I'll try a reinstall of 10.2 and try updating that to see what it does. I did have some 3rd party kernel extensions loaded, so I wonder if some of those caused the update to not run correctly. The readme on Apple's website says something about 3rd party stuff, too. Be careful & good luck! |
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RE: 10.2.3 |
December, 21, 2002 11:44 PM |
paul_findley |
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But there is still the DNS error, where the web browser stops finding URL's until one toggles the sys pref/network pane's DNS setup (or reboots). An alternate I found at macosxhints.com is to run this command under terminal: sudo kill -1 `cat /var/run/lookupd.pid` Which seems to have the same effect as toggling the DNS setup in the network pane. Note that those are back ticks. I'm surprised apple hasn't fixed this major bug that they introduced in 10.2.2. |
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RE: 10.2.3 |
December, 21, 2002 6:16 PM |
jeglin |
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I have a Radeon 7000 and did a brief test during upgrades. Using "SpeedRun," which I know almost nothing about, I benched the box (PowerTowerPro with G4/800) with 10.2.2. Added the ATI firmware patch and saw no difference in any of the benchmarks. Added 10.2.3 and saw a 4-fold increase in the graphics benchmark, with no change in any of the other benchmarks (graphics score went from 43 to 173). No way to know if it was the OpenGL improvements in 10.2.3 alone, or whether 10.2.3 also relied on the firmware patch. Regardless, neither gave me problems so I would say they are harmless at the very least. |
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RE: 10.2.3 |
December, 20, 2002 6:55 PM |
dreibel |
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I installed the 10.2.3 patch this morning on the UMAX J700. So far so good, and it looks like I'm seeing a speed increase here as well, apparently there's a new version of OpenGL included which adds speedup for ATI Rage 128 cards (I've got a Rage Orion in mine). |
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RE: 10.2.3 |
December, 20, 2002 5:13 PM |
dbreul |
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I have an 8500 with G-4 350 Newtech card/7000 me I used Speed run in 10.2.2 got 152 on graphics I did the rom upgrade on the 7000 and 10.2.3 upgrade and got 180 on graphics. |
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RE: 10.2.3 |
December, 20, 2002 12:56 PM |
oharab |
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Upgraded my UMAX S900 to Mac OS 10.2.3 and everything seems to be working perfectly. RJO'H |