10.2 on a PB 2400/G3 report |
December, 21, 2002 9:43 PM |
ivanxqz |
Well, I finally got a G3 card for my 2400 (it also 112MB RAM), and decided to give Jaguar a shot. The difference is night and day (between the G3 and the 603). While not exactly snappy, OS X is now perfectly usable on the 2400. 10.1.5 on the 603 was only useful as a server; the GUI was just too sluggish. But now, it's awesome. Nice going, Ryan! So far, most things appear to work the same. However, I have some good news and some bad news regarding the PC card slots. The good news is that 16-bit cards now seem to work just as well as Cardbus cards -- I put in a modem card and the PC card icon shows up in the menu, and it sometimes even knows what it is. Super. The bad news is that for some bizarre reason, the top slot is completely dead. It works fine in 9. I can hear the drive do something when I insert it, but it doesn't show up in the menu bar, in the Network control panel, or anywhere else. This is some pretty bad news for me, as the 2400 has no built-in Ethernet, so that's one of the slots -- and then I need the other for FireWire. Bummer. I have no idea whether it's just my machine (it's such an odd problem) or if there's some other issue. I'm installing 10.2.3 with the vague hope that it will fix it, but I severely doubt it. I thought maybe it could be a Jaguar bug itself -- the last machine with two PC Card slots was Wall Street. But it seems unlikely. At this point, the only other things that would stop me from using the 2400c as a full time OS X machine (aside from the fact that I have a perfectly nice iBook) is not being able to sleep, and (so far) not being able to go wireless. WirelessDriver (the open source driver which works with my card) looks more promising (under 10.1 it would kernel panic at startup), but my Wireless card simply doesn't register itself as a network interface when it is inserted. Anyway, congrats Ryan on making this possible, I look forward to the next rev. If there's anyone out there running Jaguar on a 2400, 3500 (PBG3) or Wall Street, I'd be curious to know if the upper slot works with any PC cards. Also, if anyone has gotten any wireless cards to work on Jaguar with XPF, that'd be exciting to hear about too. Ivan. |
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RE: 10.2 on a PB 2400/G3 report |
December, 27, 2002 1:53 AM |
takabumi.kosaka |
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As for the Wireless card on my PB2400, Orinoco Silver(PC Card, I do not know 16 or 32bit) is no problem even it is inserted at start up. Also, firewire PC card(Firewire2go) is now being recognised even it is inserted at start up and works, although it was not recoginased under OS X 10.1.x. (I have not tried starting up with both cards inserted, though...) Just in case, my machine discription is, PB2400/G3 320MHz/112MB RAM/20G HDD/ Cardbus enabled by removing two resistant chips(by myself)/ XPF 2.2.4/OS X 10.2.3 with Powerlogix Cache Control X 2.1b4. Apart from it, I also would like the support for battery level indication for my mobile Mac usage. |
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RE: 10.2 on a PB 2400/G3 report |
December, 26, 2002 8:37 PM |
OSXGuru |
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I've been playing with wireless on my Kanga lately too, with the IOXperts driver. It is a bit tricky--I too find that there are problems with recognizing PC cards when inserted at startup time. Which is a little awkward. I'll try to figure out why that's happening. |
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RE: 10.2 on a PB 2400/G3 report |
December, 22, 2002 11:06 PM |
powderhaus |
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Does anyone know if the kanga is upgradable?(processor). I would love to get a G3 that has a sugnificant cache and clock rate. Thank |
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RE: 10.2 on a PB 2400/G3 report |
December, 22, 2002 10:35 AM |
ivanxqz |
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Sorry, forgot to answer you powderhaus...my clock rate is 320 mhz on a 40mhz bus and a 1 MB backside cache running at 2:1. Performance is fine if not exactly awesome. You've got a slower clock and smaller cache (250 mhz/ 512 KB) but a faster bus (50 mhz), so performance will probably be similar. I'd say it's definitely worth trying! |
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RE: 10.2 on a PB 2400/G3 report |
December, 22, 2002 10:16 AM |
ivanxqz |
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Oh, and I was able to reproduce the dead top slot thing. It seems to happen if there's a card inserted in that slot at startup. It doesn't get seen, and no subsequent card (16-bit or Cardbus) gets seen. I'll test it some more to try to narrow down some factors: does it happen every time, is the bottom slot similarly affected, does it happen with Cardbus cards (I only tried a 16-bit card). |
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RE: 10.2 on a PB 2400/G3 report |
December, 22, 2002 10:12 AM |
ivanxqz |
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Indeed. I am now writing this to you on my 2400 running X with no wires attached! I think I wrote my previous message a little too impulsively; wireless now works great (you were right about the double install). The 2400 gets yet another life. I still don't have that much actual *use* for it, but I like it. So now there's not really much else I'd need: I think the wish list is: sleep, brightness control (or simply the ability to turn the backlight off), sound, battery status. All stuff to look forward to, but things are good for now. By the way I have no idea how many laptop XPF users are here but doing the color calibration in the displays control panel is an absolute must. In its default state, I couldn't even see the pinstripes in the menus, everything was so washed out. Looks much better now. Ivan. |
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RE: 10.2 on a PB 2400/G3 report |
December, 21, 2002 10:07 PM |
mjoecups358 |
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Regarding the wireless driver... Did yo install it twice? there is a known issue with the installer where sometimes your need to install it twice and then reboot before the network interface shows.... Marty |
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RE: 10.2 on a PB 2400/G3 report |
December, 21, 2002 10:04 PM |
powderhaus |
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I thinking of putting it on a kanga with a G3 250MHZ on it and was wondering what your clock rate is. thanks |
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RE: 10.2 on a PB 2400/G3 report |
December, 21, 2002 10:01 PM |
ivanxqz |
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Um, you know what I said about the top PC card slot not working? Ignore that. I don't know what was wrong, but a restart seemed to fix it. I'm happy now. Ivan. |