Speeding up with X 10.2 + OpenGL video card? |
January, 22, 2003 12:39 AM |
rxt7819 |
Hello All, I've been complaining about the speed of my PTP with its PowerLogix G3 500 card, and at the same time balking on buying a new machine. After fixing what was a disabled L2 Cache, I'm wondering if moving up to 10.2 (from 10.1.5) and installing a videocard with good OpenGL acceleration would help matters. Any thoughts? Any suggestions of what card might be good/better/best? Thanks a bunch, Raj |
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RE: Speeding up with X 10.2 + OpenGL video card? |
February, 01, 2003 6:26 AM |
muri |
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rxt, The Radeon 9000 card is AGP only ... |
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RE: Speeding up with X 10.2 + OpenGL video card? |
January, 30, 2003 2:31 PM |
marcush |
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My Power Tower Pro is my main home machine too. I got an iBook 500 last year that my wife mainly uses, but this 6yr. old machine still beats it in performance. You could get an ATI Rage 128 card from OWC for $60. They are still decent cards for OSX if you are not doing any gaming. |
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RE: Speeding up with X 10.2 + OpenGL video card? |
January, 29, 2003 11:03 PM |
rxt7819 |
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Thanks for the input, everyone. From the sound of it I don't think it would be worth it to spend $150+ on a Radeon 9000 Mac Edition, or $120 on the Radeon 7000. I'm no graphics poweruser, nor a gamer. But I was getting annoyed scrolling around in Mozilla (which is even slower than IE in 10.1.x, but I guess that is to be expected given the nature of Mozilla.) Besides, I need to stop pumping this old machine full of money. Can you believe this old PTP is my main home machine?! |
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RE: Speeding up with X 10.2 + OpenGL video card? |
January, 23, 2003 2:59 PM |
mjoecups358 |
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OSX has crappy 2d video acceleration if it has any at all. This is why OS8/9 scrolling is SO much snappier. While making the CPU puch all those bits around is fine if you have a dual 1Ghz machine, it is a noticeable slowdown on our older machines. No video card fixes this, faster CPU's make it a lttle less noticeable, but still no comparison to even my ancient ixMicro TT under 8.6. Even running QE enabled on my original radeon PCI doesn't make any perceivable speed increase.... Marty PS it isn't that bad really, just not as "hot" a feeling. |
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RE: Speeding up with X 10.2 + OpenGL video card? |
January, 23, 2003 2:12 PM |
marcush |
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My Power Tower Pro has a Radeon Mac Edition card and Sonnet G4 800. Scrolling is definitely not a smooth in OS9 but under most conditions I find that the scrolling speed in OSX approaches that of OS9. If you try to go too fast by trying to go from the top of a page straight to the bottom then you will see the lag. A slower scroll that moves down the page with the text still readable is smooth. Also, page up and page down scrolls update immediately as well as end key and home key scrolls. |
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RE: Speeding up with X 10.2 + OpenGL video card? |
January, 23, 2003 1:26 AM |
alan |
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I have an 8600 with a G3/500. I replaced a Rage Orion card (Rage 128 16Mb) with a Radeon 7000, and I haven't noticed any real improvement in the 2D Video in OS X. 3D maybe better in games, but running normal App's and OS X, it seems the same to me. I do get the "drop-shadow" on the arrow cursor even without QE, but that is the only real difference. The Radeon 7000 also seems to force OS 9 to boot up in 640x480 mode, before switching to your normal resolution later. I tried the QE Enabler also, but that didn't make much difference either. I am afraid that the video in OS X on these PCI machines will never be up to what it was in OS 9 - especially scrolling in windows. I am amazed that IE in OS X scrolls much slower with thousands of colors than OS 9 did with millions. The few times I boot back to OS 9 and I AMAZED at how much smoother the scrolling is... I have heard that the G4/800 upgrades can help this, but I don't think I am ready to dump another $400 into my 8600... Your experience may vary from mine, but that is what I am seeing... |
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RE: Speeding up with X 10.2 + OpenGL video card? |
January, 22, 2003 8:43 AM |
powderhaus |
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If you use the hack to get quartz E enabled it would be worth it (not to mention safari). a good card would be the radeon or the Radeon 7000. you are probably only going to find a 7000 but with the ROM update i think it is faster then the origanal when they have QE enabled. |