10.2 Jaguar Clean Install problem on "Beige G3" |
January, 30, 2003 11:40 AM |
oksana |
System: HD on ATA 0, device 0 has 10.1 working fine in 7.8GB partition. Want to install 10.2 on other HD at ATA bus 1 on first 7.8GB partition to be safe and not mess up existing 10.1 setup. I have a PowerLogix G4/500 ZIF upgrade and 600+ MB RAM Problem: Using XPF, I run install and then when trying to boot from CD (on ATA bus 0, device 1, the machine gives a grey screen with dark grey apple logo and stays there forever. Diagnostics: I tried the auto-boot unchecked with Command-V to see what would happen. After OpenFirmware appeared onscreen with message to type BOOT to continue booting, I did so and this message appeared: "BOOT CLAIM failed" and that is all that happened! Any ideas? |
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RE: 10.2 Jaguar Clean Install problem on |
February, 01, 2003 8:57 PM |
oksana |
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Solved it. Thanks for help! Actually the ONLY way to make OS 10.2 Jaguar boot was to have the Apple CD-ROM from which the OS X CD must boot set as the MASTER (ID = 0) drive on BUS 0. It would not boot with HD as master and the CD-ROM as slave with both on BUS 0 (very weird since OS 9 never had an issue booting from the CD-ROM no matter where or how it was configured) By the way, none of the drives were set as Cable-Select. The other things I did (ripping out upgrade DIMM sticks, PCI cards and reinstalling original G3 processor instead of the PowerLogix G4/500 ZIF upgrade) may or may not have had any influence on getting it to boot ... I don't intend to experiment any further to find out either. Jaguar is now installing after which I will put all hardware back where it was. I will comment tomorrow when job is done. Thanks again. |
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RE: 10.2 Jaguar Clean Install problem on |
February, 01, 2003 8:21 PM |
mjoecups358 |
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Trying them both on bus 0 might work... Since it will use the slow IDE speed rather then trying ther faster (33?) which might be screwy.... Marty |
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RE: 10.2 Jaguar Clean Install problem on |
February, 01, 2003 7:52 PM |
ken882 |
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If you don't have your HD set to Master, then what is it set at? A setting other than Master or maybe Cable Select might be the cause of your problem. I'm not sure if having the HD set to Slave would allow it to be bootable. |
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RE: 10.2 Jaguar Clean Install problem on |
February, 01, 2003 4:32 PM |
oksana |
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OK, so now I have stripped the machine down. ATI and Firewire cards out, I have put back the original G3 processor and reset the processor speed jumpers to 300MHz. I have drive config changed so that ATA bus 0 has just the Apple CD- ROM on ID #1 and the partitioned 40GB drive on ID #2 as suggested by Marty. Still cannot boot from Jaguar CD. The ATA bus 1 cable is still plugged into motherboard and not connected to anything. I tried Mark's suggestion using the C key and the mac just keeps rebooting (as if you were zapping PRAM) while the C key is held down. The G3 boots fine into OS 9.2.1 partition. I have zapped everything (Cmd-Opt-P-R, Cmd-Opt-Shift-Del), launched the installer from OS 9 and watched it restart and then keep rebooting continuously on its own. Any more suggestions?? Should I reduce to original single 256MB SIMM> Should I set the CD to slave and the HD to Master on the ATA 0 bus |
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RE: 10.2 Jaguar Clean Install problem on |
January, 31, 2003 1:02 AM |
mjoecups358 |
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Try pulling the other drive and installing to the first IDE bus. I think these machines have somewhat worthless IDE busses... Marty |
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RE: 10.2 Jaguar Clean Install problem on |
January, 30, 2003 11:04 PM |
tpmco |
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Hello oksana-- Okay--you are installing on a beige g3 with xpost facto? Forget about xpost facto--you don't need it. Insert your jaguar CD in the CDROM while running under OS X 10.1 (or OS 9 for that matter). Restart the machine, and hold down the "c" key. The jaguar cd will boot into the installer, follow the instructions and select the disk and partition you want to install to (i.e. first partition on your bus1, id=?), and let her rip. Use the startup disk in "system preferences" to select the system you want to run (toggle back and forth if you like between restarts). jaguar will win your heart!! When that happens, clone your jaguar on bus 1 system to the first partition on bus 0, id=1 and I think you will be even happier. Mark |