still waiting for root device |
April, 07, 2003 3:00 AM |
hans.nelis |
In the pages that accompany the XPF software, "still waiting for root device" is mentioned, however, no solutions are offered. It only states that osX has problems with my CD-rom. I have a matshita CR-587 do i have to change it? or is there another solution. I've read something about copying the install CD to a partition on the HD and using this as startup disk, but jaguar comes with 2 CD's , is this still possible then, and do I need special software to make the copy? Another solution I've tried is to boot the problematic old Mac as Firewire disk on a newer iMac, and use the CD-rom device of that one to write jaguar to the firewire disk. but booting with the "T" key does not work with the old mac.. I'm out of inspiration.. Can someone help me? |
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RE: still waiting for root device |
April, 11, 2003 7:07 PM |
macman |
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I had a similar situation when trying to install Jaguar on my 8600. I have a Yamaha CDRW SCSI drive and it did the 10.1 install fine. HOwever, when going to Jaguar, it paused at one point, as the drive failed to respond to the OS calls. I installed a 8x Apple branded cdrom and used that as the drive. It worked like a charm. I did not have to remove the CDRW to make this work. Stephen |
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RE: still waiting for root device |
April, 11, 2003 5:52 PM |
nick.ashton |
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I think you are misunderstanding what XPF does. Basically it adds in the drivers which allow old world hardware to work under OSX. It does NOT explicitly support CPU upgrades on machines which would ordinarily be able to run OSX. Most old world machines were originally supplied with 603 or 604 processors and can still run OSX up to v10.1 using their original processors with the help of XPF. For reasons of speed most of these machines have been upgraded by their owners to use G3 or G4 processors. A beige G3 should be able to run OSX without the use of XPF. A beige G3 with an upgraded processor should still be able to run OSX without XPF. The problem you describe are probably due to either the CD-ROM drive fitted to your machine or the OSX CD itself or possibly the utility that was used to format the hard disk onto which you are trying to install OSX. If you have tried booting directly from the OSX CD without resorting to XPF (this is still not clear from your latest post) then I would follow your friend's advice - put the original processor back in and try to install OSX. If this works then you can install the upgraded G3 and the only thing you will need to worry about is getting the L2 cache enabled. If the install of OSX still fails then you have a CD problem and that is what you need to address. Either way XPF is probably neither the issue nor the solution. |
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RE: still waiting for root device |
April, 10, 2003 1:53 AM |
hans.nelis |
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I' ve already heard that I probably have a new world machine (beige G3 desktop) and that XPF does not work correctly on them. I know X can be installed on this machine (have done it on another one), however this one has an accelerator card that does not work with X (powerlogix G3 zif), so an installation with XPF should enable me to keep the accelerator and install X??? I can try the suggestion of switching SCSI, my CD-rom is also on the internal SCSI bus... of course an installation without XPF would be more simple... can I do that and save my accelerator card. Someone else I know told me to lift the card, install X and put the card back in and hope X does not find out... i thought this was a bit to optimistic, isn't it? |
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RE: still waiting for root device |
April, 10, 2003 1:05 AM |
tomr |
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I had the same problem. Mine was caused by my SCSI CD-RW drive being connected to the internal SCSI bus. Temporarily changing it to the external SCSI bus(located on the Mother Board next to the Internal one), loading OSX and then changing it back work flawlessly. I had tried many, many other solutions and nothing else worked. |
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RE: still waiting for root device |
April, 09, 2003 11:17 AM |
nick.ashton |
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Just try booting from the OS X CD by holding down the C key. I think your machine does not require XPF. Just to be sure, when booted in OS 9 what does Apple System Profiler say that the machine is? (It's listed in the "Hardware overview" section of the "System Profile" tab). New world machines, even with upgraded processors, do not require and will probably not work correctly with XPF. |
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RE: still waiting for root device |
April, 09, 2003 3:55 AM |
hans.nelis |
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I thought I'd write the output I get after the reboot with XPF: ... using 1064 buffer headers and 1064 cluster IO buffer headers Local FireWire GUID = 0xd 0f520:0x6932 Number of descriptors: 256. Total size 4096 Size of IODBDMADescriptor: 16 Number of descriptors: 256. Total size 4096 Size of IODBDMADescriptor: 16 devfs enabled IOKitBSDInit From path: "mac-i0/sde/00:9", waiting on IOPathMatchIODeviceTree:/pci/mac-io/ide/@0:9 BmacEnet: Enabling workaround for broken unicast filter get Dependency List For Kmod(): Dependency com.apple.kernel of oldworld.support.patched SCSIDeviceType05 is not compatible or is unavailable. load_kernel_extension(): Can't get dependencies for kernel extension "oldworld.support.PatchedSCSIDeviceType05" IOCatalogue: oldworld.support.PatchedSCSIDeviceType05 cannot be loaded ADB present: c still waiting for root device still waiting for root device ... maybe this helps... |
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RE: still waiting for root device |
April, 09, 2003 1:12 AM |
hans.nelis |
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I know, however this machine has a Powerlogix upgrade card (to go from 244 to 500 MHz). I don't understand either. It can boot from a OS 9 CD with no problem, I haven't tried to boot it from a 10 CD yet. however, it think it must have something to do with XPF itself. Your remark to use carbon copy cloner to a small partition seems doable, however, I looked for this application in versiontracker, but it only exists for OS10, is there another option?? |
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RE: still waiting for root device |
April, 08, 2003 7:38 PM |
nick.ashton |
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A PowerMac G3 should not require XPF in order to install OS X. I'm assuming you mean a machine originally supplied with a G3 processor not an upgraded system. If it's an original G3 you should be able to boot directly from the CD by holding down the C key during the boot sequence. If this fails then either the CD or the drive are probably defective. |
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RE: still waiting for root device |
April, 08, 2003 1:14 AM |
hans.nelis |
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It is a Powermac G3 model. my current partition is 7GB for OSX on the first part of the HD and 29GB (for OS9) on the second part. Do I have to everything completely anew?? and partition my disk from scratch or can I get some space from the OS 9 part. Where can I find carbon copy cloner?? is it for free?? and more importantly, does it run under OS9?? |
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RE: still waiting for root device |
April, 07, 2003 11:20 AM |
nick.ashton |
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What model is your old Mac? Target disk mode (booting with the T key held down) only works for PowerBooks and old models can only act as SCSI disks not Firewire. Although Jaguar comes as 2 CD's only disk 1 is required to do a basic installation. You can install the optional items from disk 2 after completing the initial install. You can probably use a utility like Carbon Copy Cloner to copy CD 1 to a partition on your internal hard disk and then use that for the install. However, it means you need to create an extra partition to hold the CD data which will be separate from the partition onto which you ultimately install OS X. Depending on how your disks are currently partitioned this may or may not be straightforward. |
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