XPF and our future |
April, 17, 2003 8:09 AM |
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Hi ppl., XPF has been a blessing for all of us, it has allowed us to actually work with the latest Mac OS technology on our old machines. Its a great piece of software and its free. But as time goes by- us "old schoolers" and "clone warriors" have to think about the futue of this. I mean do we keep upgrading our machines or is it time to abandon them and look towards purchasing new systems. One thing is for sure that things are about to change, I mean with Panther (new Mac OS) in the horizon (this fall) and possibly new revamped hardware (IBM Power PC 970?) will the old world have any more relevance. Ryan hasn't had the time to update XPF to 3.0, which is understandable but even if he did what does it hold for the future? I was thinking about upgrading PTP/ Newer tech 400 Mhz G4 to Sonnet 800 Mhz G4 but then I am thinking will it be worth it since the brand new Macs due this fall will be three times faster? Basically I thank Ryan for giving us so much opportunity, but is it time to jumps ships? What do u guys think? Ryan? Gabby |
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RE: XPF and our future |
April, 28, 2003 11:22 AM |
OSXGuru |
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I guess I've always figured that the "old machine / new machine" debate really isn't an either/or these days. Most people who buy a new computer can find some continuing use for the old one (or find someone with a use for the old one). As for Panther, I fully expect to get it to work with XPF. It will probably require some changes in XPF, and it's not possible to say how hard that will be until Apple releases something to developers. But they say that we'll get something at WWDC in June, so I'll have a couple of months to figure it out before September. |
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RE: XPF and our future |
April, 24, 2003 10:05 AM |
rpertierra |
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I want no part of the first PC 970 out of the gate. perhaps the 2nd which won't be out until sometime next year. I still have lots of tools that require OS9 native so the machine I'm using now will be of use for some time. I'm glad I waited for a 7300 when it came out and will be buying into a similar performance slot for the PC 970 of the future. In the meantime XPF is great! IF 10.3 does not work with XPF, I'll make do. I like 10.2.5 just fine. If Apple starts making their programs Panther compatible only -- including .Mac I'll just cancel my account. (BTW check your .Mac account, by default they are automatically set to renew. You have to go in and cacel that option manually if you want the option of changing your mind). |
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RE: XPF and our future |
April, 23, 2003 7:49 PM |
gabb |
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Thanks a lot about the info on used B&W tower, I will get one, great price. GABBY |
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RE: XPF and our future |
April, 23, 2003 1:21 AM |
geoffw |
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I think that it's rather premature to say "XPF is dead". There are some of us that aren't aiming to spend *any* money on new hardware, but want to be able to run OS X on hardware that we already have. XPF is a great tool for that end. |
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RE: XPF and our future |
April, 22, 2003 10:24 PM |
mitch707 |
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I've always had the money for the 'New Machine', but I didn't know squat about computers. My first computer was an SE I found out on a curb down the block. I stopped my run and touched it - like the apes with the Black Monolith (Obelisk?) in '2001, A Space Odyssey'. Now it's G4's, P4's, MoBo's, XP, 10.2.5, 9.1-2.2, IDE, SCSI, HD's, PCI, AGP, BIOS, hacks, tweaks, flashing, yada, yada, yada. I spend as much time with my hands in a box as I do in front of a monitor. The only original skill I brought was typing. The only 'puter I want is the next one I build. This will never end. Enjoy the trip! - mitch |
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RE: XPF and our future |
April, 22, 2003 7:25 PM |
frankdtito |
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XPF is dead. Save your money and buy a G3/400 B&W for $400 at: http://www.dvwarehouse.com/product_info.php/products_id/591 (I don't work for these people nor actually bought anything from them, but this is an example of a deal of a inexpensive, capable machine that would run X better than anything in a beige box.) peace F |
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RE: XPF and our future |
April, 21, 2003 10:34 PM |
macman |
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I for one can say that my 8600 is still *way* quieter than any PC that I've put together, and thus perfect for always-on server in a liveable environment. As long as my hardware keeps kicking, I'm using it. Plus, my computers aren't going anywhere, so why not keep using them. Stephen |
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RE: XPF and our future |
April, 21, 2003 1:58 PM |
marcush |
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I'll probably turn my PowerTower Pro into a server. It's fast enough. |
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RE: XPF and our future |
April, 19, 2003 7:58 PM |
gabb |
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What will be a good use for these machines after we buy new ones? I mean I have spent a lot of money already on my PTP/ Newer Terch G4 400/ 800 mb ram/ 3 HDs/ CD burner/ Internal Zip drive etc. etc. etc.. If I use it as a server, won't it be too slow? I would like to keep it and be able to use it in some form or fashion. I love it, it has served me since 1997. |
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RE: XPF and our future |
April, 18, 2003 5:50 PM |
marcush |
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Well, September will be the 2 year mark for my PowerTower Pro running OSX. It is already in its seventh year of service. I would never have imagined it would last this long. I'll almost certainly have bought a new machine by this time next year. I'll try to make it to the end of 2004 but I don't think I'll be able to hold out any longer than Macworld 2005. In the meantime I look forward to 10.3 and I hope we all hear from Ryan by summertime to get XpostFacto 3.0. If not then I will understand as I'm sure it takes a lot of time for development. |
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RE: XPF and our future |
April, 18, 2003 7:44 AM |
drc |
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Of course you're right. Sigh. And sometime in the not so distant future I'll probably put my old 9500 aside in favour of one of those new-fangled 64 bit powerhouses. But it won't be without some regrets & a lot affection for the machine that lasted me for 9 years, went from a 120 MHz processor to 800, and from 16 MB of RAM to over a GB. I remember telling the salesman that there was no way I'd ever use 6 PCI slots. Wrong. Whatever comes next will have to be four times as good to be half the computer this one was. Hopefully this little community of holdouts will continue for awhile longer, & I also agree we all load a whole lot of thanks to Ryan for making it possible. Onwards |
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RE: XPF and our future |
April, 18, 2003 12:53 AM |
geoffw |
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For me the answer is both. I will be buying a new PowerBook soon (in about 2+ months, or so), but I expect my old 3400 to keep on going, doing some various tasks even after that time. I'd like to have the luxury of running OS X on it for those tasks that I'll be using it for. Time will tell... |
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RE: XPF and our future |
April, 18, 2003 12:13 AM |
mjoecups358 |
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I will continue to use my older hardware. I have an 8500 running OSX 10.1.5 server as well as three other boxes running OSX (9600,PTP,PW). That said, I also recently bought a refurb PB G4 Ti 867. XPF remains relevent and extremely useful, especially on the server side. For gaming and other graphic/proccesor intensive apps new hardware is a pretty compelling deal. Marty |
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RE: XPF and our future |
April, 17, 2003 6:33 PM |
tempest |
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I would be disappointed if my legacy 8500 could not run 10.3. Like someone said on Slashdot, Mac people are attached to their machines. I'm very fond of my 8500. Someday, I will buy a newer Mac, but I don't like how the towers look like. |
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RE: XPF and our future |
April, 17, 2003 6:13 PM |
gabb |
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I don't think I was talking about what is happening right now. I am very happy with my system right now, but I am talking about the near future. I think I will wait to buy a new system till the end of this year. |
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RE: XPF and our future |
April, 17, 2003 4:57 PM |
willschou1 |
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Well if you have the money for a new machine I say go for it. You wouldn't be writing this post if you were happy with what you have. Am I right or wrong? My J700 UMAX works really well with OSX 10.2.5 and so I have no reason to buy a new machine at this time. I am expecting that a way to run 10.3 will be found by Ryan or someone. If for some reason it won't run with the current XPFacto. My machine does everything I need and want it to and is fast enough for my needs with a G3 500 over-clocked to 550 mhz. No machine runs forever and the day will come when there are new things I want and need to do that I can't with my current machine. That day hasn't come yet and I have a spare parts machine ;-) XPFacto 3.0 holds the promise of firewire booting and CD booting on Old World Macs. Both will /would be a nice upgrade for our machines! I hope Ryan is able to provide them. |
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