Also stuck at blue Apple Logo Screen |
June, 14, 2003 3:41 AM |
mpotts |
Hi all, If anybody can help me I'd greatly appreciate it. Like Xander from June 6, "after installing OS 10.2.3 my computer boots back up again and my system gets to the blue background screen and I see the Apple logo." However, unlike Xander's problem, I do not see "the status bar underneath which fills up with blue and displays all the services being loaded", it just freezes at the shimmering blue logo. I have been reading the forum now for three weeks, and I think I have tried almost everything that's been suggested... at least that I could find in the wee hours between work and 3 kids. Machine: 9600 with a Powerlogix G3 445, an ATTO express PCI pro SCSI card running an ARS 2000 SCSI-IDE bridge card off an IBM hard drive. Also have native SCSI 2 GB drive and SCSI Yamaha CD burner, a Twin Turbo 128 3.7 video card and a Lucent dual USB PCI card. All SCSI terminated correctly!! What I have already tried: mixing and swapping RAM, pulling all PCI devices (except video), re-formatting 2 GB drive and using it exclusively (ruling out the ATTO card, I believe?) re-installing boot extensions, safe boot... as I said earlier... almost everything I've been able to find in the forum. One thing I haven't tried was naturist's suggestion about the thing possibly having been set up to run two video cards. I bought the thing used so I don't know. If this is indeed the problem, and here is my main question (naturist, are you there?) is there any creative way to get around this without a second 9600 native monitor, or without purchasing a second video card? The reason I ask is that these days I'm stranded in the mountains of central Europe and far away from mac buds in North America who back in the day could have helped me out (Hi Greg!). So... again... any help would be appreciated!!! PS Do I need this? Is it urgent? No... but the cool value alone makes me want to see it through. PPS Can't resist commenting on Marty's latest post... Dude, what planet are you living on??? Free software that nobody HAD to develop... a lousy 10 bucks and you're griping (searchability, albeit, would be nice). And by the way: the possesive third person plural is spelled 'their' not 'there.' |
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RE: Also stuck at blue Apple Logo Screen |
July, 08, 2003 4:30 PM |
mpotts |
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Well, after posting these inital messages over a month ago I've rejoined the land of the living. Thanks much to all who replied. I'm just wanting to close the case on this one for anyone who may have encountered the same issue. Nick, Greg, you were indeed right, it was a bad disk image. Go figure. After trying a new set of discs I encountered no problems at all, and am now happily enjoying OSX- land. At least a learned a bit and had fun in the meantime. Thanks again, Michael |
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RE: Also stuck at blue Apple Logo Screen |
June, 18, 2003 12:23 PM |
naturist |
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A little slow responding, mpotts, but I shouldn't expect this to be an issue on a 9600, as it has no video on the motherboard, as I recall. Does your video card have two monitor output? If it does, no need to actually HAVE a second display, just unplug the monitor from the first port and plug it into the second video-out port after the machine freezes and see if that is where your missing stuff is. 'S what is required on the 7500-8500 systems I have with onboard video along with a video card. For some reason the OS X installer always insists on putting the task-bar and startup screen stuff on the onboard video out, and treating the video card as the second monitor of a split-screen pair. If I boot up with the monitor on the onboard video out, my video card becomes completely devoid of signal, so I have to have the monitor on the card, then switch it to the onboard video to "rearrange the furniture." I would anticipate such a problem on a 9600 ONLY if it had two video cards, or the lone card had the ability to support two monitors in split-screen mode. |
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RE: Also stuck at blue Apple Logo Screen |
June, 18, 2003 12:57 AM |
g2 |
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MIIIKE! nice to see you here. how's the alps? I am running into the exact same problem on two G4 towers at the moment (yes, fully supported machines). They are not progressing past the blue screen upon restart after the first CD has installed. The G4s are totally stock exept for upgraded RAM (which has been pulled and swapped to see if they were the culprit). One common variable between the two machines is that I'm using a burned copy of OS X. I'll try my original disks and see if it makes a difference. cheers! Greg |
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RE: Also stuck at blue Apple Logo Screen |
June, 15, 2003 1:02 PM |
nick.ashton |
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The messages about "patchedIOSCSICD..." and "SCSI device type 05..." are not important. They are side effects of a couple of extensions which XPF loads to support CD drives under 10.0 and 10.1. They don't load and are not meant to load under 10.2 so don't let that mislead you. If you want to get rid of the messages then delete the following files from /System/Library/Extension/ PatchedIOSCSICDDrive.kext PatchedSCSIDeviceType05.kext Is the CD you are using for the install a factory mastered item or a CD-R copy? In the latter case it could simply be a bad CD. |
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RE: Also stuck at blue Apple Logo Screen |
June, 14, 2003 5:52 PM |
mpotts |
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Thanks Jim, for slotting me in before the morning coffee. If anyone else is interested in this: Ram, yes... 4 x 128 sticks... the only stuff which can run my music applications without hitch; whether its OSX comptible... that's another question, I suppose. Don't know name, but could find out. I tried unplugging the CDRW drive (Yamaha 16 10 40) - to no avail. On a whim I tried the whole process again using the original Apple 12x drive; didn't make it to the install CD. I did see an error, though, that I didn't see before during boot-up; it read, "patched IOSCSICD Drive cannot be loaded," and then a few lines down, "SCSI device type 05 cannot be loaded." So maybe it is a SCSI issue after all... the termination was checked though, before I left for Europe, so I know its right... any other suggestions anyone? Ryan? |
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RE: Also stuck at blue Apple Logo Screen |
June, 14, 2003 7:34 AM |
fixitjc |
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You didn't say how much RAM you have and in what denominations. There have been problems with older small size (especially 8Meg) RAM. I too have gotten stuck at the Blue Screen but it was during install and it turned out to be a bad CD Drive. If the 9600 is like the 75 - 8500's I have experienced strange stuff from CD Drives. I have had drives that appeared to work perfectly that had some sort of problem that prevented complete boot, try removing the power plug from the CD drive then try to boot. May sound strange since you just used it to install software but it has worked for me. Sorry if I sound a bit disjointed Haven't had any coffee this AM and am trying to get off to work. Hope that helps Jim |
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