Panther is a no-go here :( |
June, 25, 2003 4:37 PM |
chibi_delenn |
Well, looks like Panther (WWDC) is not booting on my old 8500. I got the installer to work (I think), but as far as the main OS booting up, it isn't working. I might try downgrading my Trio's firmware today just to see if that helps. I do know that it takes over 75 seconds (!) to initialize FirewireIP services on bootup, at least for the installer. I also know that the Time/Date cannot be obtained by Panther. Looks like a new BootX is in order to make that happen. Until that happens, Panther will have NO CLOCK WHATSOEVER on old macs. That can be a very, *very* bad thing on a *nix system, which tends to use date/time info a lot. If anybody here has a *working* profile with Panther, please do post. I'd love to know how you got it working. Thanks! - Chibi Delennâ„¢ |
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RE: Panther is a no-go here :( |
July, 02, 2003 1:23 AM |
jeff.barrows |
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Ditto, Ditto, Ditto... Well, i spose i should be running the installer on the verbose side..... which i have yet to do.. Doh But what i get is that wonderful multilanguage thing, but presented in a manner that gave me the freaks... I also tried installing it using an already installed copy on my firewire drive... NoGo.... well, i would be willing to test drive anything anyone wants to through at me... All i want is biege G3 support.. I mean, i have a g4 card, it's the bus that's killing me... When I saw that 1Ghz bus... all i can say is ''Drooooooool"" -dc |
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RE: Panther is a no-go here :( |
June, 27, 2003 3:01 AM |
manuel |
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Same here. I've the developer preview and Panther just hang up while booting from the CD. Hardware exception and panic error messages on a 7500 with a G4 @ 400 MHz daughterboard, 256 MB RAM: PCI : ATI XClaim VR, Orange USB and Firewire card, ADAPTEC 2930U SCSI card. If you want more details, let me know. |
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RE: Panther is a no-go here :( |
June, 25, 2003 11:30 PM |
chibi_delenn |
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Ryan, I noted that I could *not* boot from the install CD. I instead had to use Apple Software Restore to "clone" it to a partition so I could install OS X that way. My SCSI CDROM, which will boot ANYTHING, gave me "still waiting for root device" on Panther's boot cd, and the Pioneer DVD-ROM 106S IDE drive gave me the fun "MULTIMEDIA READ OR WRITE ERROR", only this time, it would not work at all. Can't boot up off the CD. What I'd kill for is a way to install the extensions using XPF *without* having it overrite all the existing directories that have non-XPF files in it (e.g. SonnetCache.kext). Booting installers w/ no L2 sucks. I'd be more than happy to test XPF3, even "as is" right now. I have two perfectly viable guinea partitions right now waiting for Panther to grace their bits and bytes with its fugly aqua and AssTacular brushed metal GUIness. - Chibi Delennâ„¢ |
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RE: Panther is a no-go here :( |
June, 25, 2003 7:57 PM |
OSXGuru |
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It's interesting that you actually were able to boot from the Install CD successfully--I had thought that would probably not work. I'll know more when I get home and try it myself. |
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RE: Panther is a no-go here :( |
June, 25, 2003 7:13 PM |
chibi_delenn |
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Thank you Ryan. :) I was able to get the installer to work, at least I believe so. It went through all its things, and go as far as the "MACH REBOOT" line, then stopped. I was forced to shut down the mac, and restart each time that happened. It appears as if all the files are in place, but nothing XPF does will allow me to boot past the line that reads: error: cannot read from device-tree at "Driver-54e000" I must say, that even without any cache enabled at all, the installer ran much faster (not necessarily smooth animation-wise, but this is due to lack of enabled L2 cache). I can't say I like the new Aqua much though. Meh. Oh well. I just want Panther working. Period. *Then* I can bitch about the brushed metal everywhere approach apple seems to be taking. ;) I have a Sonnet Tempo Trio running firmware 4.5 (for large HDs) in my mac. I have a feeling that the multifunctionality of this particular card may be interfering with the boot process somehow. I'm not sure. Odd though that I can boot off the HD to install (I had to software restore the install CD to a partition - the CD would not boot AT ALL in either my Pioneer DVD-106S IDE DVD drive, or my usually 100% rock solid, will-boot-anything Yamaha 6416S SCSI CD-R drive). Panther is sure a picky beast, that much I do know. If anybody here finds a way to get it working on a Trio card using the 4.5 firmware, do let me know. Man, I'd kill for Panther to fix my inability to boot OS X off the 200 GB HD. That 8 MB cache really makes things fly on it. - Chibi Delennâ„¢ |
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RE: Panther is a no-go here :( |
June, 25, 2003 5:53 PM |
OSXGuru |
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There are several things that I'm going to have to work on--possibly a few more than I had anticipated. I'm at WWDC now, which is great in one way, but means that I haven't been able to test on the old hardware yet. I'll get to work once I get home. |
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