Help! Disaster! Anarchy! |
June, 29, 2003 6:06 PM |
joshua |
i've bought XPF on the recommendation of many folks, and i'm still confident i'm going to be able to get it to work. but right now, it's got me freaked out. setup: PM9500/2Gb/420Mb/Sonnet G3 450/Radeon 7000 PCI. installer booted okay, then wouldn't boot into 10. booted onto 9.1 install disk, but then tried to use XPF to get it to boot into 10. 10.2, to be precise. not only that, but it now won't boot off the CD holding "C" down. not after zapping PRAM, not after CUDA button, and not after pulling the battery. what do i do? |
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RE: Help! Disaster! Anarchy! |
July, 07, 2003 9:59 PM |
marcus_ck_lee |
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Hi Joshua, Just a thought, have you try set the Throttle to between 4 to 8 before select the OS X and restart it? Marcus |
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RE: Help! Disaster! Anarchy! |
July, 01, 2003 5:06 PM |
powderhaus |
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ooops, i thought that you had an 800mhz sonnet G4.... whoops. sorry |
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RE: Help! Disaster! Anarchy! |
July, 01, 2003 4:47 PM |
marcush |
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I can email you a disc image or you might also be able to find one on the powerlogix website if you can't wait. |
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RE: Help! Disaster! Anarchy! |
June, 30, 2003 11:25 PM |
powderhaus |
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someone here with a sonnet g4 800 could probably upload one to you, i would but i have a g4 400. i never saw anything on sonnets web site about being able to download a replacement. I made back ups of those cheesy floppies the second i got them, i have never trusted those things. |
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RE: Help! Disaster! Anarchy! |
June, 30, 2003 8:00 PM |
joshua |
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i don't have an emergency disk to reset the PRAM. is there an image i can download? wjl |
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RE: Help! Disaster! Anarchy! |
June, 30, 2003 6:50 PM |
marcush |
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I just went through this yesterday. All because I wanted to have a second OSX boot drive to install the Developer Tools onto. I stripped the machine down to 1 128MB stick of RAM, an ATI Rage Orion card because it would not boot off of my Radeon, the original 225Mhz G3 processor and a SCSI drive with OS 9.1 installed on it that I keep in the machine for just such an emergency. Sometimes that is enough (make sure you push the CUDA switch though) but this time I had to use my emergency boot disk to get the NVRAM reset. Once that was doen I reinstalled all of my cards, Sonnet G4/800 and the rest of my 1GB RAM and everything was back to normal. |
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RE: Help! Disaster! Anarchy! |
June, 30, 2003 4:31 PM |
matti.lampila |
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There should be manuals of Xpostfacto on the main page eg. for dummies ;) I mean reinstalling extensions, bootx and so on. I learned almost everything by myself thru mistakes. 9600-G3/400,36gig+4gig, Ati 7kmac,adaptec fw/usb.10.2.6, 9.2.2 |
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RE: Help! Disaster! Anarchy! |
June, 30, 2003 11:35 AM |
joshua |
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when i hit option, it does bupkus. it used to do the happy mac, then quick re-reboot; now it does nothing. also, for some reason, i can't get it to do the repeated chime PRAM zap -- when i hold down cmd-opt-pr, it just hangs. doesn't even do the bong, bong, bong until you let go thing that i'm used to. here's the other thing-- i've had this problem also on a Powercenter 150 that i tried to do this with, so i don't think it's the 6-slot factor. what could it be? will try some of your solutions. i don't think my sonnet came with a PRAM zapping floppy, just a floppy with the drivers on it. wjl |
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RE: Help! Disaster! Anarchy! |
June, 30, 2003 4:12 AM |
Michael.Felsmann |
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My experience with a 9600 and Radeon 7000 is that once it is in that state of "clean" pram, my system can't be persuaded to boot at all. Unless... (drastic measures): pull ALL PCI cards and plug in the orig. video card ALONE. That way, it always bootet. Shut down, swap 7000 in, reboot (should work now, as well). From there on I could also reinstall all other PCI cards (ATTO U2W, FW/USB) I'm normaly using. I first ran into this after a battery change. Seems like our machines can't (always) indentify a Radeon 7000 as a valid video device if the PCI device list is "clean". I always have the old card within easy reach, just in case. A Rage 128 Pro works, as well. hope this helps. Mike |
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RE: Help! Disaster! Anarchy! |
June, 29, 2003 11:33 PM |
mjoecups358 |
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Where did you BUY XPF? Nevermind... Anyhow, sometimes there is a floppy disk to clear the PRAM of systems that get in this state... I have one from Powerlogix that also works for my Metabox card. You are not alone in seeing this condition, it is especially common in 6 PCI slot macs. Sometimes moving the Radeon around, or replacing the processor with an older one works to give it a kickstart. Sometimes a dead PRAM battery makes this condition more frequent. Using the CUDA button with the system ON sometimes also works. Good luck, Marty PS I know it's annoying I have been there repeatedly. |
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RE: Help! Disaster! Anarchy! |
June, 29, 2003 8:41 PM |
fixitjc |
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pull the PRAM batery and leave it out for a couple of hours with machine unplugged Several folks had this problem with Sonnet (OH for a Searchable Forum) then boot into 9 reset clock etc. then launch XPF and set it to reinstall extentions and (I can't remember the other reinstall option in that menu. then select your OSX installer disk as the source and your 2 gig as the destination and tell it to install. You may have a problem with space since your drive is only 2 gig and you already have softwear on it. You may need to add an additional or larger drive. Hope that helps Jim |
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RE: Help! Disaster! Anarchy! |
June, 29, 2003 8:01 PM |
powderhaus |
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if you hit option while booting can you get back to OS9? i had a problem just like that, i had to zap the pram with the pram restore floppy that came with my sonnet upgrade card and with the normal CMD Option pr about 50 to 100 times before my computer would boot, but that was always after it failed to boot the installer (because my CD drive was unsupported) never after it actually installed. i would say zap the pram all day untill it works again. |
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