How To Move Aps & Users To A Larger Partition |
July, 27, 2003 7:46 PM |
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How To Move Aps & Users To A Larger Partition From small OSX Partition? OSX instal refused to instal on 30G hd so it was partitioned to 4G for OSX which worked fine. 1. How do I move the Aps and Users to the larger partition? I drug the Users over but the home user status remains on the small partition. 2. How to transfer home status to the user file on the new partition? 3. Can the original Users file then be deleted? Will this work also for applications? 4. Can the OSX partition be copied in mass with tech tools and be moved to a hard drive with one large partition of more than 8G? And then move classic there also? Classic loads fine from a separate partition and seems it can be moved about with no issues. |
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RE: How To Move Aps & Users To A Larger Partition |
July, 28, 2003 5:53 PM |
powderhaus |
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well then the 8GB limit would never have come into play. You are going to have to give us more information about you rig if you still need to move your system. |
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RE: How To Move Aps & Users To A Larger Partition |
July, 28, 2003 5:08 PM |
mjoecups358 |
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It will if the drive is hooked to one of the aftermarket ATA cards that pose as SCSI. I have an Acard 66 card that boots from my Maxtor 60 gig for example. Marty |
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RE: How To Move Aps & Users To A Larger Partition |
July, 28, 2003 4:51 PM |
powderhaus |
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I knew that he could use CCC but will OSX boot an IDE drive that is greater than 8GB? That is where i see the problem. |
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RE: How To Move Aps & Users To A Larger Partition |
July, 28, 2003 12:37 PM |
marcush |
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I used carbon cop cloner this past weekend to clone a new OSX installation to from a 4GB SCSI drive to a 20GB drive that I added to my Power Tower Pro on which to install the developer tools and to use for experimentation. I'd also been having trouble with my primary OSX installation which is also on a 20GB partition of a Western Digital 80GB SE drive. I backed up the preferences for my critical apps and my iPhoto library and cloned the new install to that partition also. Now all I have to do is reinstall a few things and copy the prefs back and I'm back in business. |
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RE: How To Move Aps & Users To A Larger Partition |
July, 28, 2003 12:09 PM |
jseibyl |
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You can use a utility called "Carbon Copy Cloner" to copy the entire OSX disk over to another drive, including all the hidden stuff. I have not had the time to see if it actually works, as my backup disk is an 18 gig on an Adaptec 2940 card, and that card WILL NOT boot osx. The 18 gig backup is blessed, and shows up as a startup disk in the the preference panel, so at least I know it is there. Apps do run from it. I have a better scsi card on the way that is supposed to boot X, so I will keep you posted. CC cloner is fast, and simple. No terminal, no SUDO stuff. |
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RE: How To Move Aps & Users To A Larger Partition |
July, 28, 2003 9:54 AM |
powderhaus |
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well when you are done you can disable the root just as easy, you will notice that the "enable root" in the security menu changes to "disable root". Using the terminal would end up to be MUCH more difficult. Anyone know that the command to move the home folder? Its not just mv. If you really are that paranoid, just pull disconnect your phone line/ethernet cable and copy my directions on to a document so you have them to read. In Unix you can do anything with the sudo command, but you also have to know all the commands. |
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Don't enable root user! |
July, 28, 2003 9:29 AM |
naturist |
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I was at a Washington Apple Pi users group meeting Saturday, when Lawrence Charters, who I understand works for U of Maryland said "I administer a network with over 700 Macs on it, and have NEVER found a need to enable the root user. Don't do that." The reason for not enabling root is that when root is not enabled, your Mac is secure from a lot of Unix web attacks. Enabling root opens you up to those attacks. Lawrence went on to say that there are other, more secure ways to do things. Root is simply not needed and for the above reason is undesireable. I personally do not claim to be any sort of unix geek. But I believe you can do all that powderhaus has suggested via the sudo command without enabling root. I'd go there first. |
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RE: How To Move Aps & Users To A Larger Partition |
July, 27, 2003 10:22 PM |
powderhaus |
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to change the home directory of a user first you have to enable the root to enable the root 1. go to netinfo in the utilities folder. 2. in the security menu hit authenticate 3. in the security menu hit enable root, when you chose a password it would probably be best to use your admin password so it is easy to remember. change the hame directory 1. log in as root (in the "other" thingy at login type "root" as user) 2. open netinfo again, and authenticate 3. in the column to the right hit "users" then find the user you need to change, go to the bottom of the screen and scroll down until you see "Home" then across from that change the directory. repeat this for all users you need to change 4. In the file menu click "save changes" 5. it will not automatically copy your home file to the new directory so you must copy it there (before or after i am not sure, when i did it i miss placed the home directory and when i went to log in non of my files were there so when i copied all of my files back it had some trouble and some of my prefs files were lost, it said it was because i did not have permissions to copy them but i was in the root so i would REPAIR PERMISSIONS before doing this. BACK UP YOUR HOME DIRECTORY. after you have successfully copied all of your users you can then delete the old/backed up files. i would run all of your apps that you work with a lot and need before deleting to make sure that all of your prefs and what not are still intact. To copy apps just drag and drop. All of my applications are on my Firewire Hard Drive, they don't actually need to be in the applications folder, that is just for organization. i do not know about the problem of copying OSX on to a different drive that is larger than 8GB because i don't understand the IDE limitation. My system (with nothing else, just some utilities that i left just in case (i left the utilities folder and some other system apps, like system prefs in the drive) fits on a 2.3Gb drive with 600MB to spare and dev tools (with no documentation) so i don't think that it should be a problem if you are not putting anything on the drive. Good Luck! Jim |
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