Question about DVD-R |
July, 29, 2003 8:38 AM |
a_r_stovall |
Okay, Now that I am planning on purchasing an ATA card. I was curious if my Pioneer A-04 DVD-R drive will work with 10.1 or above. If I remember correctly this is the same drive as the superdrive. A little information about my setup. I have a Powercenter 150 with a G3 533 upgrade card from sonnet. I have it maxed at 256 (if you can add more than this let me know!) I have also added an ATI Pci Video card since the onboard one will not work with X and then I have a generic USB board as well. Right now I am using the original Scsi 2 gig drive but plan on using an IDE drive after I purchase the ATA card. At first look does this configuration look like something that might cause me trouble? I appreciate any help. Thanks, Aaron |
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RE: Question about DVD-R |
August, 05, 2003 11:58 AM |
a_r_stovall |
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Yeah I had no luck with the EDO ram as well. I ended up just going with FPM and have had no problems. As for my videocard issue I bought a powercolor radeon 7000 and will flash it with the mac bios when I get it. |
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RE: Question about DVD-R |
August, 01, 2003 11:33 AM |
jseibyl |
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marcush, Good to know about FPM and EDO for Power Computing boxes, interesting. I have not had the chance to play with the clones, so I will keep your info in mind. Thnks! |
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RE: Question about DVD-R |
August, 01, 2003 11:23 AM |
marcush |
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I'm not sure I would get EDO DIMMS for a Power Computing machine. There is conflicting information out there on whether they can be used or not. My personal experience is that they are not. About 4 years ago I mistakenly received 2 128MB EDO DIMM from OWC. I had ordered non-EDO (FPM) DIMMs but decided to try them out. They crashed my Power Tower Pro constantly for the few days I attempted to use them. I then did a little more research by going over to the Macgurus website and reading up on their RAM recommendations. They pointed out that although EDO RAM was officially supposed to work it did not do so reliably in most cases. Their recommendation was to stick to FPM RAM in Power Computing machines, with the exception of the Powerbase, which could make full reliable use of EDO RAM. I sent those EDO DIMMs back for exchange and the replacement FPM DIMMs have worked reliably since then. |
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RE: Question about DVD-R |
August, 01, 2003 6:47 AM |
jseibyl |
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most ATI will work, I have not had a chance to test, though. |
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RE: Question about DVD-R |
July, 31, 2003 10:17 PM |
a_r_stovall |
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I am running OS 9.1 and just installed OS X with no problems. Unfortunatly it looks like my graphics card will only do 640x480 in OS X it is a Matrox Millennium II. I know it is an old card but hey it works. ;) Are there any other nice PCI video cards other than the ATI 7000 Mac edition that will work well with OS X and support higher resolutions? |
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RE: Question about DVD-R |
July, 31, 2003 3:23 PM |
jseibyl |
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http://www.everymac.com/systems/powercc/powercenter/powercenter150.htm l a_r_stovall, Here is your ram answer, YES you can use 128 chips! I would get the 128 EDO Dimms from OWC, 26 bucks each. Boring day today at work, wish I was in front of my MAC, rather than this machine at work (Pee-Cee). :-) Jim |
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RE: Question about DVD-R |
July, 31, 2003 11:35 AM |
jseibyl |
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Oh yeah, MAC OS 9 can handle up to 1.5 gig RAM (I believe), not sure about OS 8, but 512 should not be an issue. What OS you running?? |
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RE: Question about DVD-R |
July, 31, 2003 11:31 AM |
jseibyl |
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You might want to do a tad more research, but I have an 8500, that "officially" only takes 64 meg EDO dimms. Unofficially, it can and does use 128 meg EDO dimms. If the boards have the same basic architecture, yours MIGHT be able to take the 128 chips, and then you would have 512. I don't know much about the Powercenter boards, but 128 chips are pretty cheap, and I have been using the OWC stuff with no probs in three of my macs. They DO have a great return policy for RAM BTW ;-) I too have been in the PeeCee world for years, but I started out in MAC, and have returned to it as you can upgrade the piss out of the old beige macs without spending a fortune. I just wanted to play with OSX, now I have more macs than PeeCee's at home. I switched my fiancee from a Compaq (nasty!) cuz I was tired of trying to keep that dog running, and use my 9500 for photoshop and DVD production. I still use my windoze workstation as my main video machine (dual proc, etc), but when I can afford a dual g5, I will move to it without hesitation! |
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RE: Question about DVD-R |
July, 29, 2003 10:24 PM |
a_r_stovall |
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There are 4 dimm slots in the 150 but looking around on lowendmac.com it states that it is expandable to 256. Is this just an old OS issue and OS X fixes this? My ATA drive will be 6.4 to start but I will be adding a 40 gig drive later on. I ordered the SIIG card before I realized it wouldn't work with iDVD so I am calling customer service tomorrow to see if I can cancel that and order the sonnet card. Can't wait to get this thing going. I plan on buying a G5 next spring with my tax return. I was in NYC last weekend and visited the apple store. I must say that it was pretty impressive. I have been using Windoze pc's for quite some time as they are more affordable but all my friends have Mac's and I have been impressed. Thanks for all your help! |
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RE: Question about DVD-R |
July, 29, 2003 2:02 PM |
marcush |
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You will need an ATI card with a Promise controller chip, such as, the Sonnet Tempo ATA/100 and ATA/133 cards. This will be detected by OSX as an IDE bus which will allow the drive to be used as a superdrive if installed internally. That is, iDVD will work. Because the card will be seen as an IDE bus you will run up against the 8GB limit for installing OSX. This will only be a problem for an OS install though, not installing the periodic updates from Apple. You can clone your OSX install from a SCSI drive to a partition larger than 8GB on an ATA hard drive using the free Carbon Copy Cloner utility. The other option is to get either an ACARD or SIIG ATA card. These will appear as an additional SCSI bus in OSX and you avoid the 8GB limitation altogether. The drive will work with Apple's Disc Burner in OSX but iDVD won't be able to burn a DVD with it. My choice has been to go with an Sonnet ATA/100 card. I switched over from SCSI quite a while ago. There are no termination issues and you can get phenominally larger drives relatively cheaply. I have a Power Tower Pro 225 with a Sonnet G4/800 processor daughtercard and 1GB of RAM. If you have less than 512MB of RAM then you need to add more for optimal performance. I have a Pioneer DVR-104 installed internally and iDVD 2 and 3 work great. |
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RE: Question about DVD-R |
July, 29, 2003 11:21 AM |
jseibyl |
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Not sure about the ATA bus, but I have an AO3 in an external firewire housing that is running just fine on a macally combo card (firewire/usb 2.0)on 10.2.6. I have a 9500, g4 800. How many RAM slots does that 150 have?? There are 128 EDO dimms availible from OWC that should work. Sorry, don't know the config on your logic board, but I suspect it has at least 4 RAM slots. The 128's run on my 8500 and 9500. Also watch the size of the ATA drive. There are issues with ATA partitions larger than 8 gigs for installing OSX. I know it needs the FIRST partition. I am not sure about any other issues with ATA, as I am all scsi. |
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