DVD-ROM and Sonnet ATA 133 card |
July, 30, 2003 12:44 PM |
gchron |
I have a strange situation with my new Sonnet ATA 133 card. But first some information: I have a 9500 with a Sonnet Tempo ATA 133 card. At the first ATA BUS I have connected a WD 120 GB Hard drive with 8 MB cache. On the Second BUS I have connected a HITACHI GD-7500 DVD ROM drive. My Hard disk is working like a charm with 21 MB/sec speed. The problem is with the DVD, where it reads very slow. When I start to read from it I have a buzy cursor and I cannot do anything until the copy is finished. Of cource this makes me the DVD watching very bad. What could you think that is the problem is there a benchmark utility for read only volumes in order to measure its speed??? Also the drive is set as MASTER but the disk utility shows it as SLAVE. When I set it as SLAVE the DVD is not understood by the system (I cannot use it any more). Do anyone of you have the same problem??? Is there anyone fixed it??? |
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RE: DVD-ROM and Sonnet ATA 133 card |
August, 13, 2003 8:29 PM |
chibi_delenn |
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Well, like I said before. Seeing as I cannot even insert a CD or DVD into the drive in OS X without the eternal (as in NEVER ENDING) spinning beachball of death, I cannot use DVD AT ALL from any drive other than a HD. :( I might try downgrading to the 3.5 firmware for my Tempo Trio tonight, though 4.5 is far more stable in terms of filesystem issues. I'd just rather not have to use my PS2 as a DVD player...looks so much better on my mac. - Chibi Delennâ„¢ |
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RE: DVD-ROM and Sonnet ATA 133 card |
August, 13, 2003 6:47 PM |
marcush |
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DVD movie playback is kinda choppy for me also if I use the Pioneer DVD burner as the read device. Therefore, I only use that drive for burning CD's and DVD's. I play movies through my Toshiba SD-R1202 DVD/CD-RW combo drive via Firewire. It plays movies at 12x as opposed to the 4x of the Pioneer drive. When I had the Toshiba drive installed internally it played just as well. So in my case at least the Pioneer drive is not great for playing movie's. Results are the same whether QE is on or not. This is under 10.2.6 with DVD Player 3.2. |
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RE: DVD-ROM and Sonnet ATA 133 card |
August, 13, 2003 1:43 AM |
chibi_delenn |
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Chuckberhain, Thank you for that advice. Unfortunately, if you re-read my post, you'll notice that I get the "spinning beachball of death" anytime I even insert a CD/DVD into the drive under OS X. I've run DVD from the HD in OS X. Unfortunately, DVD Player 3.2.x is ungodly slow thanks to switching to Quartz Extreme rendering it would seem. On a mac like mine with a PCI video card, it is horribly choppy. Sigh...DVD playback was smooth as silk in 10.1.x (and more responsive than in OS 9 even!), but in 10.2, it's slow as molasses, with the same hardware. Go Apple! - Chibi Delennâ„¢ |
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RE: DVD-ROM and Sonnet ATA 133 card |
August, 12, 2003 8:52 PM |
chuckberhain |
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It is NOT the answer, but this works for me { http://wormintheapple.gr/macdvd/ }. It is where you will find DVD_backup. It will make watching dvd's possible, but is s_l_o_w to prepare, which is why, though it works, it may not be for you. |
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RE: DVD-ROM and Sonnet ATA 133 card |
August, 10, 2003 4:42 PM |
gchron |
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Hello chibi_delenn, sorry to tell you that and all of you but they told me that sonnet should make me a firmware for my card. I also cannot copy stuff from my DVD or CD in a good speed and also I have spinning beach ball, but if I leave it for some time the copy finishes and the system returns to its initial state. Do anyone have a newer Ultratek 133.kext. could be this the problem??? I do not know what is the problem and noone is helping me. If you also can connect sonnet it would be nice as they told me that they do not know about the problem. and they are not having any new firmware in the works. |
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RE: DVD-ROM and Sonnet ATA 133 card |
August, 08, 2003 9:40 PM |
chibi_delenn |
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I wonder if Promise would do the same for me. I have a Tempo Trio (ATA/133) and have horrible DVD-ROM performance, and absolutely NO CD/DVD capability in OS X (eternal spinning beach ball of death whenever I put a CD/DVD into the drive). I could really use a new firmware with Large HD support that is ATAPI friendly again. - Chibi Delennâ„¢ |
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RE: DVD-ROM and Sonnet ATA 133 card |
August, 08, 2003 1:55 PM |
gchron |
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People from promise replied my email and they said that if there a newer version of the firmware I will be the first to test. I will keep you informed about the situation and if I resolved it. |
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RE: DVD-ROM and Sonnet ATA 133 card |
August, 04, 2003 2:57 PM |
marcush |
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I don't believe that is a problem. ioreg gives me similar output. Also, for my card, a tempo ATA/100, ASP did not report the bus type before I upgraded to the latest firmware a few months ago. Afterwards, ASP said it was a SCSI card. The devices attached to it were still reported as ATA or ATAPI devices. Here's the same section of the ioreg output I get (hopefully it formats decently): +-o ATADeviceNub@1 | | | +-o IOATAPIProtocolTransport | | | +-o IOSCSIPeripheralDeviceNub | | | +-o IOSCSIPeripheralDeviceType05 | | | +-o IODVDServices | | | +-o IODVDBlockStorageDriver | | | +-o SCSITaskUserClientIniter Perhaps the problem is the firmware for the drive. Have you checked for an update? |
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RE: DVD-ROM and Sonnet ATA 133 card |
August, 04, 2003 11:22 AM |
gchron |
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I just run the ioreg command from the terminal window: | | +-o Ultra-Tek133P@D | | | +-o UltraTek133P | | | +-o UltraTek133P_Nub@0 | | | | +-o IOATABlockStorageDriver | | | | +-o IOATABlockStorageDevice | | | | +-o IOBlockStorageDriver | | | | +-o WDC WD1200JB-75CRA0 Media | | | | +-o IOMediaBSDClient | | | | +-o IOApplePartitionScheme | | | | +-o Apple@1 | | | | | +-o IOMediaBSDClient | | | | +-o Macintosh@2 | | | | | +-o IOMediaBSDClient | | | | +-o Macintosh@3 | | | | | +-o IOMediaBSDClient | | | | +-o Macintosh@4 | | | | | +-o IOMediaBSDClient | | | | +-o Patch Partition@5 | | | | | +-o IOMediaBSDClient | | | | +-o untitled@6 | | | | +-o IOMediaBSDClient | | | +-o UltraTek133P_Nub@2 | | | +-o IOATAPIProtocolTransport | | | +-o IOSCSIPeripheralDeviceNub | | | +-o IOSCSIPeripheralDeviceType05 | | | +-o IODVDServices | | | +-o IODVDBlockStorageDriver Just a question why from ATAPI protocol transport the machine tells me SCSI??? could this cause the problem??? |
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RE: DVD-ROM and Sonnet ATA 133 card |
August, 03, 2003 12:33 PM |
m12954 |
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I am having "burn" problems with Toast 5.2.1 and Apple's Burn software in both operating systems. I receive errors to the affect of having trouble reading the bus. I have the following setup; Power Computing Power Center Pro 210, 384Mb, upgraded with Sonnet PCI G4 700MHz, running 9.2.2 (Helper software install), Mac OS X 10.2.6 (XPostFacto install – Sonnet software would not allow install of OS X, any version), USB/Firewie PCI card and I/O Flex 8 port combo USB/Firewire front panel, and a CD/DVD-R/RW-ROM Pioneer DVR-105 connected through the Sonnet Tempo ATA 100 PCI host adapter card as a slave device with the master device being a 60Gb Seagate IDE drive. My question, (which I have sent to Sonnet and APS Technology – where I purchased the drive) is this a bus problem or a drive problem? Since both Burn and Toast exhibit the same problem I have pretty much ruled them out. Thanks for the comments/suggestions. |
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RE: DVD-ROM and Sonnet ATA 133 card |
August, 02, 2003 1:38 PM |
gchron |
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Yes I tried to connect sonnet technical support they told me that they do not know about the problem. Also that there is no any new firmware in the works. Also they told me to contact promise. Promise did not answer my email yet. Some new findings I would like to add: FIRST FINGING: I change BUS between two deviceses The DVD in now on BUS 0 and the 120 HD is on BUS 1. The DVD in Now MASTER (correct) and the HD become SLAVE (wrong). I Change the BUSes back. SECONT FINDING: I disconnect the DVD from BUS 1 and I connect an HD WD 20GB. So we have one disk in BUS 0 and one in BUS 1 both set as MASTER. The disk in BUS 0 is shown as MASTER and the Second as SLAVE - also strange. From these two things we can say that anything in BUS 1 is shown as Slave if something is in BUS 0. I do not have other disks to try with more in order to see what are the changes. Someone can help??? |
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RE: DVD-ROM and Sonnet ATA 133 card |
July, 31, 2003 8:34 PM |
rpjallan |
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I have a Sonnet ATA/100 card with 8GB & 80GB Seagate drives on channel 1. I am now considering a Pioneer DVR-105 or DVR-106. I have not heard of this problem before. Have you tried contacting Sonnet Tech Support. You should let them know about this. |
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RE: DVD-ROM and Sonnet ATA 133 card |
July, 31, 2003 7:57 PM |
chibi_delenn |
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I've got this same problem with my Pioneer DVD-106S DVD-ROM drive on my Sonnet Tempo Trio (ATA/133) as well. I have a Seagate 40 GB HD and a WD 200 GB SE HD w/ 8 MB Cache on IDE channel 1 (0?), and the DVD-ROM by itself on the other channel. If I switch channels for each respective drive set, NOTHING works at all. It used to work with the 3.5 firmware, but not with 4.5. DVD/CD in OS X causes the SBBOD (spinning beach ball of death) and I have to restart to regain use of the OS. This sucks, because the 4.5 firmware is far more stable than the 3.5 firmware was, yet I lose CD/DVD in OS X (works OK in 9, but slower than it should be). I'd love to find a solution to this problem, as it is VERY IRRITATING. - Chibi Delennâ„¢ |
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RE: DVD-ROM and Sonnet ATA 133 card |
July, 31, 2003 11:46 AM |
marcush |
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Sorry, I misread your post. Have you tried switching the drive to IDE channel 1 to see if it behaves the same way? |
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RE: DVD-ROM and Sonnet ATA 133 card |
July, 30, 2003 2:53 PM |
gchron |
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I know about that but it is on a separate BUS from the HD. I will try to make CD Cable select and what it will do. Thanks |
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RE: DVD-ROM and Sonnet ATA 133 card |
July, 30, 2003 1:42 PM |
marcush |
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The DVD drive will be quirky unless it is set as master on it's own bus. I have seen performance problems like you describe and discs failing to mount if the drive is set to slave or sharing a bus with another drive. What I have done recently is to set all of my drives (two HD's on channel one and an HD and my Pioneer DVR-104 on channel two of a Sonnet ATA/100 card) to cable select. The drive will function as slave but I still don't think it is 100% reliable that way. I need to do some more testing. The drive is rock solid when it is the only drive on it's channel and set to master. |