XPostFacto on groups.yahoo.com |
September, 02, 2003 12:16 PM |
rjbailey |
As long as Ryan continues to stay away from the OWC board, we have nothing to lose by using the XPostFacto group on groups.yahoo.com, which has search capabilities. I'll be checking it regularly. Please reply to this message to keep it near the top of the list to spread the word. |
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RE: XPostFacto on groups.yahoo.com |
September, 10, 2003 1:18 AM |
krissel |
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Saw the other thread about going to yahoo, went over there to register only to find out it was basically abandoned. I do understand the fear that fractioning the knowledge base may not be helpful but this (OWC) site is so painful to use. When I feel like torturing myself or just in a masochistic mood, I log in here. :-) BTW, Yahoo now has one of the best spam filters I've ever seen. My mailbox over there gets maybe one or two unwanted emails per week, yes week. I only wish my home ISP (ATT) was nearly that good. I'm debating whether to repost here my difficulty with getting X.2 to work on my 9600 (I've emailed jonck who offered help, bless him) and now trying to get XPF 3 to work, but I do have a life outside this grey box....somewhere.... kris <:-) |
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RE: XPostFacto on groups.yahoo.com |
September, 03, 2003 3:43 PM |
w18593323 |
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There is a way to have all of us happy. What about askinf owc to get from the database (I'm surer that coldfusion has that option) a text listing at the end of the month and make it available on the yahoo group on some fashion. That will be a perfect interim solution and will be nice not to have to discuss the same topics everyweek. |
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RE: XPostFacto on groups.yahoo.com |
September, 03, 2003 2:19 PM |
marcush |
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jgejr, go to the other group if you like. I've looked at it myself a while back. I can't help noticing that you offered no details at all about your machine. You've given nothing for us to go on. I have an idea of what the problem is if your machine is of the six pci slot variety. That would be to put your CD-ROM and your target drive on the slow external SCSI bus connector of the logic board. The OSX installer will often have difficulty detecting drives on the FAST SCSI bus. |
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jgejr |
September, 03, 2003 8:05 AM |
jseibyl |
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You can see that there have been responces to your questions.....but without the specific info, we can't even start to narrow it down...... |
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RE: XPostFacto on groups.yahoo....jgejr |
September, 03, 2003 7:50 AM |
jseibyl |
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I have some unanswered questions myself, BUT the fact remains, I have ALSO gotten some good workabale solutions as well. Okay I may not have the answer to where to find the rom file in an adaptec 29160N card, to flash from a wintel version, but that is kind of an obtuse thing. I think I can speak for most of the others when I say that generally most will try to help, or at the very least offer some trains of thought to come up with a solution. Personally, I try to narrow down things to the point where the person can figure it out. But, there are still things I clasifiy in the rhelm or arcane science(scsi timing being one). I am sorry if you had unanswered questions, we all do, and the fact that searchability is nonexsistant doesn't help. I usually stick to the first few pages of the threads, because this forum is slow. I assume that this group has a certain degree of intelligence to even consider doing this, and though I don't know the specific questions you had or have, but would be at least willing to offfer thoughts if they are in the top of the list. |
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RE: XPostFacto groups in general....... |
September, 03, 2003 4:29 AM |
jgejr |
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I don't think they're much help at all. I find a bunch of people rambling on about this and that and not answering questions from people seeking help. I've posted three times and received one response. Thanks guys, you can stop patting yourselves on the back. You've been a GREAT help. |
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RE: XPostFacto on groups.yahoo.com |
September, 03, 2003 2:53 AM |
tempest |
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I think another list is a great idea. As long as the posts aren't blatant copies from this list it should be OK. I hereby grant permission to others to copy my posts to other forums. |
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RE: XPostFacto on groups.yahoo.com |
September, 02, 2003 7:34 PM |
johnbclark |
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I gotta admit - yes, we do lose valuable information due to the fact that so much gets lost in the past. However, what I think makes this forum much more special is the intellectual discourse that we all engage in. We are more than folks with technical Mac questions... we are a community of ideas and thinkers too. Half of the reading that I do in here has nothing directly to do with coding or hardware; instead, we also explore concepts and follow trains of thought into the ether. This is why I keep coming back to this forum again and again - I belong to at least four or five others, but none hold my interest like this one. The extra effort that we make to overcome our obstacles is what sets us apart, and makes us, as a community of thinkers, better than others. Sorry, I did get carried away on a metaphysical trip there :). But, by definition, as Mac people, don't we all "think different"? |
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RE: XPostFacto on groups.yahoo.com |
September, 02, 2003 6:48 PM |
voxxdigital |
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I won't switch to Yahoo. I already was memeber of a Yahoo group and between emails of serious and nice people related to the group, I was spammed to death with disgusting porno ads of the lowest level imaginable. I had even to shut down the email account I was using at that time. Besides of that, I believe Ryan deserves our confidence and our ten bucks - which is nothing to us, but it's always a motivation to someone that wrote to us a very cool software for free. Installing OSX on an unsupported computer is not for beginners, and this forum is of a lot of help to a lot of people. Yes, the way this forum is structured sucks. No search engine, recent posts sorted upside down, very slow loading pages. It could be really better. But before this forum gets improved, I'd like to see XPF3 released, so I'm giving Ryan his time, I know he's a very busy man. Hey Ryan, if you're reading this, a little proof of life wouldn't hurt anyway... ;-) |
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RE: XPostFacto on groups.yahoo.com |
September, 02, 2003 5:30 PM |
jonck |
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Ok, I agree that Ryan should get some form of kickback for his work on XPF. But the fact that this board is not searchable makes the incredible amount of information that is locked into this board largely useless. Aside from that, if a question goes unanswered for a few days it will soon be a few pages back on the board with relatively no chance that anyone is going to read it let alone give a meaningful answer. Therefore switching to an alternate board seems like the logical thing to do. But only if everyone, especially the very knowledgable ones among us, makes the switch together. If not we will only be scraping ourself thin. The one we should really be talking to about this is Ryan in my opinion. Does anyone know of a way to contact him outside this board? No doubt he will be able to tell us why he chose for OWC and their lousy board system in the first place. Perhaps another approach could be that all of us send a polite yet forceful email to OWC stating our complaints. No doubt many of us are good customers at OWC, since we are all doing our best to keep our old machines up and running. If they receive a steady stream of complaints about this board by good customers, it would seem to me that they can't/won't ignore us forever. Anyway, I have just sent an email to OWC stating my complaints. I know many of you have done so before me and I hope many more of you will do so in the future. If OWC makes this board searchable, fine, we all stick around. If they continue to ignore us I propose that one of the heavyweights of this board contacts Ryan and discusses the options of an alternate board that would allow searches and still allow Ryan to earn money off XPF. All the best everyone, Jonck |
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RE: XPostFacto on groups.yahoo.com |
September, 02, 2003 4:31 PM |
willschou1 |
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I see no reason to split the group up. However I would be happy to see the complainers gone ;-) So we can get down to solving problems rather then issues we have no control over. What would be the point of a XPFacto group without Ryan's imput? Yes Ryan hasn't been here much but he has another job and is busy working on XPFacto 3.0 so Panthor 10.3 will run on our machines. XPFacto 2.5.5 solves most issues for most people and runs great with 10.0 - 10.2.6 . Running OSX on an older machine is not something everyone can do on their own. I have helped many people over the years and am one of the first people to run OSX on an older machine and perhaps the first on a UMAX clone. I wrote my own solutions long before I knew who Ryan is. I learned the hard way some people can not be helped and they are the very people who will take up a major portion of your time if you will let them. A big time complainer on the lowend mac supermac list started up his own Yahoo.com Supermac list. He made the mistake of stealing the posts from the real list and copying them over to the yahoo group. All it took was one email from Dan(the list owner) and the list was shut down by Yahoo that day. So I hope the new list won't be stealing posts from here. If they do any poster on this list may send a complaint about their private posts being stolen to Yahoo. ;-) |
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RE: XPostFacto on groups.yahoo.com |
September, 02, 2003 4:09 PM |
jseibyl |
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I appreciate what you are saying but....... Unfortunately I have to agree with mjoecups358 and powderhaus.....I was on a yahoo group once, and that was enough. There is a lot of people here with GREAT advice that are reasonable AND helpful, but I think most will stay away from the yahoo forums. What we really need is a searchability to what we have here(like we didn't know! :-)). I am grateful to Ryan for doing all this, and I happily plunk down my ten bucks for the forum, I figure it helps the dev of XPF. Hell, I want Panther on my 9500..... Yes I WISH this was searchable, but the fact remains that the "heavies" on this forum understand this limitation, and are cool enough AND understanding enough to help, even if the solution was posted several months before. Ryan deserves our sheckles for coming up with one of the coolest hacks I know of to squeak some time from our trusty beige macs and at the very least putting us in touch with one another. It would not be fair to him to go to a public area, and I don't want the spam anyway. There has been some discussions about setting up an "alternative", but if we do, we should stay away from the publk forums, that is more hassle to me than hitting the links and getting a cup of coffe while this forum loads. |
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RE: XPostFacto on groups.yahoo.com |
September, 02, 2003 2:52 PM |
mjoecups358 |
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I don't like/will not use the yahoo thing either... I think a private board is better. As it won't be a source of SPAM. Marty |
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RE: XPostFacto on groups.yahoo.com |
September, 02, 2003 2:40 PM |
powderhaus |
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i think if you are going to set something up it should be a privet board, just so Ryan will still get some money for his work, I think he still deserves it. He has another job and a life, sure i think he should spend some more time on XPF 3 but you complaining and starting a new forum that is open to everyone is not going to help him any nor will it help XPF nor will it help you. sure we can have searching but If we are not helping you i have my doubts that someone over there is going to do a better job, seeing as there are plenty of us who have been reading and answering and learning here for a year or 2 or 3. I will not move to another forum unless it is privet so that Ryan still gets some money/support for what he is doing. |
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RE: XPostFacto on groups.yahoo.com |
September, 02, 2003 1:05 PM |
rjbailey |
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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/XPostFacto/ |
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RE: XPostFacto on groups.yahoo.com |
September, 02, 2003 12:33 PM |
jgejr |
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what' the address of that group? |