XPF 3 |
September, 23, 2003 11:25 PM |
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"...Panther support isn't going so well. The biggest problem at this point is that Apple is not releasing source code for Panther until after it ships. This makes my debugging quite a bit harder at this stage. In fact, there is some chance that I won't be able to get Panther to work until I see the source, which would mean some delay after Panther ships. We'll see how it goes--I'd love to have it working on day 1, but I don't want to waste too much time trying to figure out issues that will be obvious once I see the source..." Ryan, I have to say, thank you for your hard work, really. I believe all of us members of XPF forum would like to say the same. I'd like to make one suggestion. Since Panther support may (unfortuantely) delay until its release due to the lack of the source code, could you have a look on the old wish of making non-G machines running OSX 10.2? Or maybe that Sonnet CPU that fits in the 6500's L2 slot? Just a thought. |
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RE: XPF 3 ltking |
September, 30, 2003 9:50 AM |
jseibyl |
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Hope it werks... Jim |
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jseibyl |
September, 29, 2003 5:34 PM |
ltking |
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Hi jseibyl : Many thanks for the tip! I plan to try it. Lonnie |
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ltking |
September, 29, 2003 12:00 PM |
jseibyl |
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My throttle is set at 10 for my g4 800, I tried it at other settings, but that is the one that seems to work best for me and my 9500. I have two drives on main scsi, two drive on adaptec 2940 card, and one on external scsi, also external cdrw on 2940 and stock cd rom internally. 24 for me gave the old old world shuffle back to my 9.1 install. As a matter of fact, it would not even give me my 9.2.2 disk, which is on the 2940 card. Now, I get the "can't open scsi disk" strings for about three lines until the drive spins up, then right into jag........every once in a while, I get the evil grey stop sign, but a warm boot and a repair of permissions fixes that. That seems to appear when I flip between os 9.2 and X a few times. I can live with that....for now... ;-) |
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RE: XPF 3 Hi Chibi |
September, 27, 2003 7:30 PM |
ltking |
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Hi All: May have spoken a bit prematurely! Put my Sonnet 800MHz G4 back in and under XPF 3 set with throttle to 24 and to boot in verbose mode I don't even get anything verbose! It sits there for about 3 minutes and the boots into a second OS 9.1 system. Chibi, if I can coax you into looking at this thread, you seem to have experimented with a number of different configurations while playing with XPF and OS 10.x.x; any ideas? Am planning to go back to the NewerTech 500MHz G3 in all probability since I had the entire system running the way I wanted it using that CPU. Cheers, Lonnie |
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RE: XPF 3 |
September, 26, 2003 10:26 PM |
ltking |
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Hi Ryan: Was hoping to hear something from you by the time I write this but gather you're coding away on another revision to XPF 3. I've answered my own questions however. #1 Nice job on XPF 3!! As you'll see below, even in its alpha state it's a nice bit of work! #2 I have OS 10.2 booting from my internal IBM Ultrastar 4Gb drive on the INTERNAL bus. As you'd mentioned to John in May, by disabling the unit attention it worked well - at least at a throttle setting of 24. I'll be experimenting with that over the next few days. #3 I was incorrect in my recollection of the high speed Apple CD-ROM in that I had a 24x and not a 12x. It too however is running just fine. #4 Curiously, the boot drive I have my primary OS 9.1 system on is also an IBM Ultrastar 2Gb drive. I was amazed to note, while changing the SCSI address pins that it too had the Unit Attention Disabled jumper closed - to disable the unit attention. In any case, I'm back in the OS 10,x ballgame. Thanks Lonnie King |
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RE: XPF 3 |
September, 25, 2003 12:34 PM |
voxxdigital |
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Hey, I'd love to put a G3 on my Performa to run OS X... I really hope you can achieve that soon! As for debugging the 6500, etc, if you need me as guinea pig, just let me know... ;-) |
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RE: XPF 3 |
September, 25, 2003 12:22 AM |
ltking |
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Hi Ryan: May I interject a humble request/question here? Since initially getting OS 10.2 up and running on one of a pair of PPC8500's but with the boot drive on the "slow buss" and having reverted to a 4X Apple CD ROM, I became disillusioned with the whole affair and have spent the last several weeks installing Yellow Dog Linux. I was quite surprised at the close similarity in the interfaces! Because of a curious set of circumstances I am going back to working with OS 10.2. I ran across some notes I'd made from the forum back in May and realized that my OS 10.2 boot disk is an IBM Ultrastar. I hope I am successful in getting it to boot on the "fast SCSI buss" by setting the "Disable Unit Attention" jumper. I have seen other note on the forum that they are successful in installing and running OS 10.x with Apples 12x CD ROM installed. When I tried this after getting the system running (albeit with Sonnett's program not XPF) the machine would not boot at all. I would very much like to have the boot disk be on the higher speed SCSI buss and to be able to run the 12x CD ROM. Should I be able to do this using XPF? XPF 3.0? Thanks for the work and thanks in advance for any advice/encouragement you can offer. Cheers, Lonnie King |
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RE: XPF 3 |
September, 24, 2003 10:14 PM |
OSXGuru |
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At this point, that's what I'm thinking as well. I've got a few more things I can try re: Panther without the source, but I'm thinking why bat my head against the wall now when I can make progress a whole lot faster once Apple gets the source out. So my main priority at the moment is getting XPF 3 to the beta stage, and then I do want to return to the 6400, 6500, TAM, etc., and get the last bugs out there too. On the 603s and 604s and 10.2, my first priority is going to be getting the L2-cache slot G3 upgrades working in OS X. That's really the ideal solution, and if I can get that working. |
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