Installation on 9600 w/ Tempo Trio |
October, 26, 2003 10:21 PM |
cham |
I have been OS X.2.6 on a 9600 w/ a Sonnet G4 800,a Radeon 7000 and a Tempo Trio using PCI X Insatll. I've had a lot of problems booting into OS X, so a colleague suggested XPostFacto. The installation goes swimmingly until it's time to select a destination disc in the OS X.2 installer. It can't find the two big IDE discs connected to the Tempo Trio or their partitions. XPostFacto itself had no such problem. For a lot of reasons, that's where I need to put the boot discs. Anybody been there? Any wonderful suggestions? any help would be appreciated. Bob |
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RE: Installation on 9600 w/ Tempo Trio |
October, 28, 2003 10:52 PM |
senojs4070 |
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My system is similar to smwalkers and I wasn't able to install OS X.2 using the Sonnet soft ware but did install relatrively easily with XPOSTFACTO but my superdrive does act like a superdrive and my computer has lost its ability to go on the net. My computer during installation ask if I wanted to update my OS 9.1 to 9.2. Sonnet said that I could not do this, Can I with XPOSTFACTO and why should I if I can? senojs |
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RE: Installation on 9600 w/ Tempo Trio |
October, 28, 2003 1:50 PM |
cham |
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Actually, i did use the Apple Formatter to format the IDE drives. I am using the 10.2.8 Combo updater. It is the recent one (downloaded Friday), not the earlier version that gave folks so much trouble. I will give the permissions repair a try. Thanks for the suggestion. Bob |
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RE: Installation on 9600 w/ Tempo Trio |
October, 27, 2003 6:18 PM |
nees |
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If you update to 10.2.8 then be sure to use the combo updater and download to your desktop to install. (I avoid the System Preferences Softward updater except as a notification device, and I use its download to desktop feature if it is not as system upgrade). Combo updaters always give less trouble. That said, many people have had problems with 10.2.8. I personally have stuck with 10.2.6 on the legacy, although the Sawtooth at work took 10.2.8 with no trouble. I imagine that you used Intech HD because Apples program would not format your particular drives. I read somewhere on this forum that there is a version 2.1 Drive Setup that will format a wider range of drives, but getting hold of it may be tricky as it is not available through versiontracker. Go with Apple's formatting if you have a choice. I am wondering if you have tried repairing the disk. Also, you might be able to repair the disk permisions from the 10.2 installation disk although I do not know how this will work with a legacy Mac. Hopefully some others have some suggestions too. Good luck |
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RE: Installation on 9600 w/ Tempo Trio |
October, 27, 2003 4:24 PM |
cham |
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The IDE drives and the drive c alled (Macintosh) are formatted with Apple's HD setup Utility. The others with HD Toolkit. I used Sonnet's PCI X Install to install OS X. The problem was getting nothing but a black screen when starting up or restarting in OS X. Worked fine in OS 9.1 if I held down the Option key. I just reinstalled OS X.2 using Sonnet's installer. Updated to OS X.2.8 and ran Sonnet's update X. OS x booted right up, except the dock was missing, I can't open HDs by double clicking on them and Bias Peak is caught in some sort of bizarre loop while in the process of opening. Some days you just can't win. |
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RE: Installation on 9600 w/ Tempo Trio |
October, 27, 2003 1:09 PM |
nees |
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How are the HDs formatted? The best results are using Apple's Drive Setup Utility that is found with OS 9.1 or 9.2 (depending on what you have lying around, newer versions can apparently format a wider variety of drives). I assume you used the Sonnet installer previously for 10.2.6. On to what partition was it installed? If you had problems, what kind did you experience? Some issues are removed by repairing permissions using the OSX Disk Utility program. Also, I find DiskWarrior indispinsable for directory repairs, and I find this particularly important for OSX due to its system size. Finally, if you had given up competely on your old 10.2.6 install as being useful, you might still "save" it by booting into it using Xpostfacto with the menu checked "Reinstall Extensions" (something like that). This will install the Xpostfacto extensions, and possibly give you a smoother running system if the Xpostfacto extensions are better written than the Sonnet's. But try that only as a last resort. I have used this feature, but never in the context I am suggesting to you. Finally, if you go through a clean install, you might try putting one of the bigger SCSI HDs at SCSI ID O and see if it can be detected by the Jaguar installation disk. I suggest this because when I was using the internal SCSI bus and SCSI HDs I always found that the computer looked at this ID# as somewhat magical when booting up with OSX and Xpostfacto and etc.. Install to SCSI drive, then use CCC to copy over to the larger IDE drives. When using CCC, be sure to check "Bless Old World Target Disk" and have the drives formatted as described above. Good luck |
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RE: Installation on 9600 w/ Tempo Trio |
October, 27, 2003 12:46 PM |
mjoecups358 |
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You can try removing all your ram down to the minimum 128M. See if that makes any difference, then readd your memory one stick at a time. Marty |
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RE: Installation on 9600 w/ Tempo Trio |
October, 27, 2003 9:12 AM |
cham |
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Tempo Trio is a card with USB2.0, Firewire and ATA 133 on it. PCI X Install is Sonnet's answer to XPostFacto. The 9600 is stock except those cards that I mentioned. Thus it has an Apple CD ROM. SCSI Bus 0 ID = 0 1 Gig SCSI HD (Macintosh) ID = 1 4 Gig SCSI HD partitioned into: 3.55 GB (Mac Hard Drive)(OS 9.1) & 496 MB (Small Drive One) ID = 6 5.5 Gig SCSI HD partitioned into: 4.58 GB (Internal Drive)(OS 8.6) & 989.9 MB (Small Drive Two) SCSI(sic) Bus 2 ID = 0 80 Gig IDE HD (Big One) ID = 1 80 Gig IDE HD partitioned into: 7.82 GIG (OS X Boot) & 76.68 GB (Big Two) From within XPF, I was able to select the Partition (OS X Boot)containing the first 8 GB of one of the IDE Hard Drives. 288 MB So it didn't work for you either, except copying from a SCSI drive? I don't have enough contiguous SCSI space to use your trick. Bob |
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RE: Installation on 9600 w/ Tempo Trio |
October, 27, 2003 8:55 AM |
cham |
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Tempo Trio is a card with USB2.0, Firewire and ATA 133 on it. PCI X Install is Sonnet's answer to XPostFacto. The 9600 is stock except those cards that I mentioned. Thus it has an Apple CD ROM. SCSI Bus 0 ID = 0 1 Gig SCSI HD ID = 1 4 Gig SCSI HD partitioned into: 3.55 GB (OS 9.1) & 496 MB ID = 6 4 Gig SCSI HD partitioned into 4.58 GB (OS 9.1) & 989.9 MB SCSI Bus 2 ID = 0 80 Gig SCSI HD ID = 1 80 Gig SCSI HD partitioned into 8 GIG and ID = 6 I Gig SCSI HD partitioned into From within XPF, I was able to select the Partition containing the first 288 MB |
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RE: Installation on 9600 w/ Tempo Trio |
October, 27, 2003 12:09 AM |
smwalker |
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What is Tempo Trio? Also what is PCI X Insatll(sp?). What type of CD-ROM do you have and how is connected to rest of computer? What type of OS 9 installation do you have and where is it in the scheme of volumes and partitions? What is meant by "XPF itself had no such problem"? How much RAM do you have? OSX has to install on the first 8 gb of an ide partition; on scsi there is no such limitation. I have PM 9600 with 1.38 gb RAM; stock 4 gb scsi hard drive id 0, a SIIG Pci card with 120 gb ide hard drive that appear scsi to Apple System Profiler because of the particular make up of the SIIG card. I have a Pioneer DVDR/CDRW (SuperDrive) on a Sonnet Tempo UltraTek PCI card which give the Pioneer drive a true atapi look to ASP, which it didn't get on the SIIG card. I had no problems installing OSX to the SCSI hard drive from an OS 9 partition on the 120 gb ide hard disk, but had to use carbon copy cloner to do an install of OSX to the ide hard disk. Alot more info on your system could help a lot. |