Jag 10.2.1 |
September, 18, 2002 5:20 PM |
geo4u911 |
Now on Software Update. |
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RE: Jag 10.2.1 |
September, 24, 2002 1:03 PM |
frank |
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my $0.02: i think it's something to do with QT6.0.1. 10.1.x had QT5 so that worked, but 10.2.x has QT6 so maybe that still has some compatibility problems. |
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RE: Jag 10.2.1 |
September, 20, 2002 11:13 AM |
jcgrant3 |
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For me it has nothing to do with VPC. It appears that my ATA and SCSI drives no longer work well together in 10.2.1. They did work okay in 10.1.5. I think something has changed code-wise that makes the interaction more of a problem. |
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RE: Jag 10.2.1 |
September, 20, 2002 10:38 AM |
rettink |
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Just wondering if this is a problem when just launching VPC or a general issue altogether. I have an 8500/G4/450 running X.2 and have yet to experience any sound drops from itunes. In fact I did notice that itunes 3.0.1 seems to be less of a burden on the CPU then its predecessor. I don't use VPC but as a test I used itunes to play some mp3's, started a quicktime movie, launched about 10 different programs and no stuttttterrrring. So is this a VPC thing? Thanks Tim |
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RE: Jag 10.2.1 |
September, 20, 2002 9:57 AM |
jcgrant3 |
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I have only the highest respect for Ryan, he's done very well that which the larger companies couldn't do well at all, but I doubt we'll see anything to help with this sound stoppage problem anytime soon. Just look at the boards here. He has people he's trying to help that need a lot more than just being able to listen to their music. Still...music is important in its own way...it would be nice. What I wonder is why, why did it go from just some stuttering in 10.1.5 to a total breakdown in 10.2--10.2.1?? |
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RE: Jag 10.2.1 |
September, 20, 2002 8:48 AM |
dave |
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I was reading someplace else that OS X in all it's incarnations has some real latency problems - specific mention was made of midi latency of 100ms+. It sounds like Apple is just bulling their way through a bad kernel/driver design with very powerful supported hardware. Most of the hardware we're talking about here has some serious performance bottlenecks that aggravate the problem to the point where we get these drop-outs. |
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RE: Jag 10.2.1 |
September, 20, 2002 6:27 AM |
kbata |
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Although I have only SCSI drives I have the same problem with ITunes. It seems a little better than with 10.2 but its still there. For me it only happens now when I launch VPC but I think I has to do with any program that accesses the hard drive to move large amounts of data. For now I've found that pausing Itunes as soon as I here the stuttering seems to keep it from dying completely. Once the sound dies it's gone for all programs and needs a complete restart. This must be an Old World issue because I haven't seen it on any of the normal OS X boards. I have complete faith that Ryan will once again save the day and come up with a fix soon. |
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RE: Jag 10.2.1 |
September, 20, 2002 12:05 AM |
jcgrant3 |
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Oh, it's not quite "useless." I'm just a bit spoiled. In 10.1.5, I could work on a number of things and still listen to music or video, etc. This is on a setup that's a mixture of two ATA drives using a (take you pick, tried em both), Ahard 66 or a Sonnet ATA 100 controller, and three SCSI drives. Since upgrading to 10.2, if I even touch one of the ATA drives while something is playing, stuttering starts, followed soon by total stop of music. Nothing except a complete restart revives the music capability. And, if I happen to forget, and try to access one of the ATA drives, down it goes again. Under 10.1.5, I occasionally had a stutter, but not totally going down in flames. I'm considering going back to 10.1.5, though I really don't want to. I had hoped that 10.2.1 and the updated iTunes would help, but didn't. My earlier message reflected my depressed state, after taking this thing apart and putting it back together in almost every configuration I know of to get things friendly again. Fiendly is what it's become. A 7500 with Sonnet 500 G3, 700+ megs memory, ATA, USB and a Rage Pro card that works quite well. I thought it would run happily a while longer, but I'm considering giving up on keeping it going with the current system. Unfortunately, I can only afford a "darkside" machine, if I switch. |
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RE: Jag 10.2.1 jcgrant3 |
September, 19, 2002 4:06 PM |
kbata |
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"nearly flawless in 10.1.5, now nearly useless in 10.2.1..." What is going wrong with your computer to make you say it's useless? |
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RE: Jag 10.2.1 |
September, 19, 2002 1:43 PM |
jcgrant3 |
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nearly flawless in 10.1.5, now nearly useless in 10.2.1... what've they done to us? |
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RE: Jag 10.2.1 |
September, 19, 2002 2:15 AM |
mjoecups358 |
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same as kbata here... The itunes thing is very annoying since it worked flawlessly in 10.1.5. |
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RE: Jag 10.2.1 |
September, 18, 2002 8:15 PM |
kbata |
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Upgrade works fine for me. I checked my Snapscan 1236S with the Snapscan software and it worked. It stopped working when I upgraded to Jaguar. Sound still cuts out if I run Itunes and launch Virtual PC. The Hard Drive doesn't churn like it did with 10.2 but the sound still quits. |