Boot problem |
September, 30, 2002 7:54 PM |
luscher |
The situation: PPC 8500/NewerTechG3/Legacy Mac. I have been successfully running OS 10.2 on my 2GB original Apple installed drive (SCSI Bus 0, ID 0) The wish: Run System 10 using XPostFacto from a new 36GB drive (Product ID IBM ZJCS2) The trial procedure: Installed the new drive at SCSI Bus 0, ID 4 (the original 2GB Apple installed drive is still at 0/0). Used XPostFacto installer to write files to the new drive The problem: The new drive will not boot. Panic window says: Can't open SCSI 4... or no bootable HFS+partition on SCSI 4... The question: What did I do wrong? Any pointers are welcome and appreciated. ...fl... |
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RE: Boot problem |
October, 09, 2002 11:29 AM |
rjbailey |
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The first sentence should have read: Desparate to avoid spending $60 on Intech's Hard Disk SpeedTools, I found a way to hack Mac OS 9's Drive Setup to format unsupported drives: http://www.macfaq.de/macfaqdaten/ minifaqs/dspg.html. |
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RE: Boot problem |
October, 09, 2002 11:27 AM |
rjbailey |
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Desparate to avoid spending $60 on Intech's Hard Disk SpeedTools, I found a way to hack Mac OS 9's Drive Setup to format unsupported drives: . While a little dated, the document nevertheless was very helpful, and my first hack effort on Drive Setup was successful. I repartitioned and reformatted my unsupported WD hard drive, copied over my working Mac OS X system, and rebooted into the new partition. This hint may be helpful to other cheapskates like myself. (Note: To review, using hacked pre-OS 9 versions of Drive Setup will not help you, nor will OS X's Disk Utility, nor will FWB's Hard Disk Toolkit.) |
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RE: Boot problem |
October, 05, 2002 5:44 PM |
OSXGuru |
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I think you probably will have to repartition, but you could try something less first, to see if it works. |
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RE: Boot problem |
October, 05, 2002 10:04 AM |
rjbailey |
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Ryan: Do you mean reformat the entire disk (erase and remake partitions, etc) or just erase the Mac OS X partition with Hard Disk SpeedTools? |
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RE: Boot problem |
October, 04, 2002 10:45 PM |
OSXGuru |
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It looks like you may need to reformat with Intech's Hard Disk SpeedTools in Mac OS 9. It is the other utility, aside from Drive Setup, that is known to create bootable disks for older machines in Mac OS X. I had thought that just erasing the volume might help (as opposed to reformatting), but it looks like that isn't the case. |
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RE: Boot problem |
October, 04, 2002 7:28 PM |
rjbailey |
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Lars: Mac OS 9 Drive Setup wouldn't touch the drive--it called it unsupported--so I had to partition in OS X. Once the partitions were set up in OS X, OS 9 could erase the partition, which was my attempt #2. thx, jb |
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RE: Boot problem |
October, 04, 2002 7:13 PM |
lars |
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rjbailey, did you try formatting the 36 gb drive in Mac OS 9 so the wrapper volume is created and then using CCC to copy OS X? I think that will work.(worked for me) |
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RE: Boot problem |
October, 04, 2002 6:56 PM |
rjbailey |
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Allow me to share my experience. I installed a new drive and copied over a functioning Mac OS X partition using Carbon Copy Cloner in three different ways. After each attempt I tried rebooting from the new partition using XPF with the following success: 1. Partition and format using OS X, then CCC: WOULD NOT BOOT. 2. Erase disk in Mac OS 9, then CCC in OS X: WOULD NOT BOOT. 3. Erase disk in Mac OS 9, use FWB Toolkit to reformat in OS 9, then CCC in OS X. WOULD NOT BOOT. I'm clearly missing something here. The only option I haven't tried is reinstalling OS X from scratch and then using CCC. Don't want to have to do that though. Any suggestions? |
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RE: Boot problem |
October, 01, 2002 1:57 AM |
luscher |
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Thanks, Ryan. A reformat indeed soved the problem. Everything is running smoothly on the new drive. |
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RE: Boot problem |
September, 30, 2002 8:44 PM |
OSXGuru |
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If it is saying "no bootable HFS partition", then the problem is probably that the drive was formatted in Mac OS X. The Disk Utility in Mac OS X doesn't create a HFS wrapper around HFS+ volumes, which causes problems for booting on older machines. Probably the easiest thing to do is simply to reformat the disk in Mac OS 9, with Apple's Drive Setup or Intech's Hard Disk SpeedTools. Alternatively, it might be sufficient just to erase the partition you want to install to (using "Erase Disk" in the Mac OS 9 Finder). The "Can't open" message may be part of the same problem, or it may be a problem with drive spin-up. On some of the IBM drives, it is necessary to adjust the "Disable Unit Attention" jumper. But I'd tried reformatting first--that may well take care of it. |