8600 g3/300 upgrade won't install 10.2 (&server) |
October, 10, 2002 4:59 PM |
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I have an 8600, that was running 10.1.3 fine, but had run out of drive space and wouldn't upgrade to 10.1.4 or beyond. Since then I was able to gt 10.2 & 10.2server, and thus I bought a 37Gb drive from OWC. My first problem is that the drive is not read as being able to be formatted. It mounts, and is seen as 'untitled' but if I bring up the disk setup tool of os9.1, it refuses to format it as it is an unsupported drive. I'm going to try the hack for drive setup given in the forum. http://www.macfaq.de/macfaqdaten/minifaqs/dspg.html So I default back to trying to install on the original 2Gb drive (as a test) that I had 10.1 on. Formatted the drive. Using XpostFacto 2.2.2, and 10.2 server. Install starts correctly,(writes files to 2Gb drive and reboots) but after reboot nothing happens. I've selected the verbose boot mode, but the monitor never comes up. If I force reboot, I'll get the new apple logo of 10.2 boot, and the the circle with the slash in it that I take to mean... no boot drive. Getting back to a booting 9 machine is tough, but doable. Trying to do the install with the G3/300 Mhz card in. Cranking it down to 208 mhz and 3x69mhz cache setting (writing from memory at work, so not positive about that terminology for that particular setting) Machine has 224 Mb of ram, none of it is interleaved. All ram worked under 10.1 OS9.1 partition is on external drive. I've tried leaving it up during boot, or turning it off. No effect either way. I've tried setting the "throttling to 8, 12, and 18, but had not effect. No cards in PCI slots. I'm very puzzled, and am hoping for a direction to try. I am so in need of this server being up. I'm moving, and need to get a secondary DNS and Mail server up before the move, or my domains will be offline. (I'm in the middle of this move right now, so responses and testing of suggestion may be slowed) |
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E: 8600 g3/300 upgrade won't install 10.2 (&serve |
November, 01, 2002 12:59 PM |
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Blew it away, re-installed. Works fine now. Issues currently are more related to ignorance of OSX Server and poor resources to research problems. If anyone knows about OSX server. I have some questions... |
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8600 g3/300 upgrade won't install 10.2 (&server) |
October, 28, 2002 2:19 PM |
OSXGuru |
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One thing you could try is disconnecting from Ethernet until you finish booting. Sometimes that helps--I'm not sure why. If that doesn't help, try writing down the panic info (or take a picture, if you have a digital camera)--it may be possible to narrow things down a little. |
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10.2.1 upgrade (server) won't finish boot |
October, 28, 2002 11:49 AM |
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See my comments below. |
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October, 28, 2002 11:38 AM |
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Ok, more DOH!, but also a question. Server Settings is installed from the Admin Tools Disk, so once that is done, then it should work fine. (Haven't tested it yet, but that is becasue....) Following the install of Admin Tools, which went fine. I attempted to install the required updates displayed in Software Update. Software Update fails pretty regularly, so I suspect I need to turn off checksum for disk utility. Running the end around on Software Update, I downloaded the various .pkgs that were available and installed them. After having installed all but OSX server update, everything was fine. This includes security update 09-02. After having installed OSX server update (10.2.1), my machine won't finish booting. If I command-v, and see the output it appears to hang at the very end of the boot process. Does the seek for LDAP, (which there isn't any, yet), and then outputs a bunch of info (which can be supplied if needed) and begins to try to use crashlogger (not sure of name, not in front of 'puter at this time) keeps trying failin, repeating message, and that will continue forever. What to do? Can I try to re-install the 10.2.1 server pkg from commmand line, and single usr mode? I've fsck'ed and while there were two inode issues, those were fixed. Really don't want to re-install everything, as I will get to this point again. Does 10.2.1 upgrade work? thanks ST |
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October, 25, 2002 12:03 PM |
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Figured it out. Forgot to install BootX, and extentions.... DOH! Next query is more OSX server related. I'm not able to launch Server Settings. It crashes every time on Launch. Any thoughts? It is somewhat critical to OSX server and it hates me. |
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October, 24, 2002 4:42 PM |
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Okay, I got the install to run with 2.2.2, but many things didn't work correctly and when I tested the drive it was bad. So I formatted a new drive (tested it to make sure it was good {low level format, and wrote zeros...) It appears to be okay. I also got XPF 2.2.4, and gave the install another shot. the installer launches okay, and begins the install, but errors out when trying to acutally install the files. Here is the error culled from the log file. Any thoughts? "Lock Timed Out waiting on disk0s6-Mount Disk could not be mounted for installation" thanks, ST |
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October, 22, 2002 5:39 PM |
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eeehhh.... The command-V didn't work fo me at all on my dual-screen setup 7500.. (Radeon PCI card...) BUT... Trying to install X on an IBM DPSS (18GB) didn't work.. for some odd reason. Tried it various way, also with Jaguar and running the installer script in X.. plain from the CD-ROM.. and updated the lot using Xpostfacto afterwards.. or reversed the process.. didn't matter.. no way to get it going! On the other hand.. My Seagate Atlas V performs nicely as a boot disk for OS X... at leats, it used to. It seems that -one way or another- X is a bit picky on the drives it wants to run with.. seems like old days again.. the old HDD setup and so..running system 7.x My 2 p worth... |
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E: 8600 g3/300 upgrade won't install 10.2 (&serve |
October, 22, 2002 2:42 PM |
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Just to confirm, with an install using XPF 2.2.2 I am unable to successfully complete updates using software updater or quicktime updater. My question is this; Can I just update to XPF 2.2.4, or do I need to re-install? Not a huge issue as I haven't configured the server yet. |
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October, 21, 2002 3:09 PM |
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Just an update. I was able to get OSX.2 Server to install using XPF 2.2.2, and on a 37Gb drive, that had an 8 Gb partition. I'm having issues with updates using Apple Software Update, but I will give 2.2.4 XPF a try. |
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8600 g3/300 upgrade won't install 10.2 (&server) |
October, 21, 2002 2:07 PM |
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I've posted a beta of 2.2.4 at this URL: http://eshop.macsales.com/OSXCenter/XPostFacto/Download/XPostFacto2.2.4b1.sit It is possible that it may fix your problem--let me know whether it does. |
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October, 20, 2002 8:32 PM |
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Okay, so using 2.2.2 I can get the past the reading package, and select the drive for install, but almost immediately following the install starting, it states that install failed, do I want to restart. I'm assuming that this is where I give up and wait on XPF 2.2.4? I am trying to install onto the 2Gb drive that use to be my OSX 10.1.3 drive. (clean formatted HFS+). |
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October, 20, 2002 5:27 PM |
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Okay, so I'm seeing the same behavior that is documented in other threads. Using XPF 2.2.3, garbled verbose startup screen, then panic halting here. I got the install to start using XPF 2.2.1, but when it tried to read packages... it went on for hours, and eventually I had dinner guests and had to shut down. Havent' tried XPF 2.2.2. yet, but am trying 2.2.1 again today. |
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8600 g3/300 upgrade won't install 10.2 (&server) |
October, 16, 2002 7:13 AM |
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It sounds like you are getting a blank monitor on a cold boot, but sometimes get further with a warm boot (i.e. by pressing command-control-powerkey at that point). Is that right? In that case, you would need to press command-control-powerkey and then hold down command-v quite quickly to get some error messages (it can be a bit awkward to do). |
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October, 15, 2002 12:35 PM |
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Still getting no output from command-v after machine reboots to install OSX.2. Get no output if command-v after machine fails to start install for OSX.2. Only drive in machine is apple 2gb drive. SCSI ID 0. Tried to Carbon Copy to 4.3gb drive, but no joy there. (this was before attempted upgrade to OSX.2) any thoughts, anyone? |
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October, 12, 2002 11:49 AM |
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I have an 18 gig WD drive, I hacked Drive setup to get it format with Drive setup. However it will not work as an install drive. Symptons are much the same as you describe. Actually it was even worse because I could not even get OS X to install on any drive while the WD drive was still in the machine. I ended up installing OS X to another drive. Reinstalled the WD drive it was recognized under OS X with out problems and ran fine. I eventually used Carbon Copy Cloner to move my OS X to the WD drive. It worked and I can boot the system into OS X from the WD drive. Very very odd behavior indeed. Again I could not install OS X to this drive, could not even install OS X while this drive was in the machine. After removeing WD drive I was able to install OS X, reinstalled WD drive, used Carbon Copy Cloner to move OS X to the WD drive and then booted into OS X from it without problems. bill |
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8600 g3/300 upgrade won't install 10.2 (&server) |
October, 11, 2002 2:12 AM |
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Okay retried this from scratch with command v held down and switched monitors. Still nothing after the machine reboots to start the install. |
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8600 g3/300 upgrade won't install 10.2 (&server) |
October, 11, 2002 1:27 AM |
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trying it now, but just to clarify. after I boot into OS 9.1 external drive I run Xpostfacto target 2gb apple drive and OS10.2 server for install. hit start install, files load to 2gb drive machine reboots.... waiting waiting... I've waited as long as 10 min. Monitor never comes up. Black screen no output. (flat panel samsung monitor worked with 10.1) If I then force reboot... sometimes I'll get apple then slash circle. Tried command v at this point and got no output. I'll try to try it with the full install sequence from above repeated and after initial Xpostfacto triggered reboot I'll hold down command v (although I have set the Xpostfacto menu prefs to verbose startup) |
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8600 g3/300 upgrade won't install 10.2 (&server) |
October, 10, 2002 8:00 PM |
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Try holding down command-v as the computer restarts. That should get you an error message of some kind, rather than the circle with a slash. Let me know what message you get (assuming you get one). |