PTP [9500] Radeon 7000 Atto OrangeMicro success |
October, 23, 2002 12:24 AM |
jeglin |
With the new XPF 2.2.4b1, I was able to install Jaguar on my PowerTowerPro with G3/500 Powerlogix upgrade card, ATI Radeon 7000, Atto UL2D (OWC $29), IBM Ultrastar 18Gig drive (68-pin with 68:50 adapter), and OrangeMicro dual FW dual USB card. The box also has a Farallon 10/100 ethernet card. Notes: 1. Could not install if drive was connected to the Atto card. Could not install if drive was connected to internal SCSI bus. Install was possible only with drive connected to external bus (mobo connector). After install, could not boot on either the Atto or the internal bus, but successfully boots on the external bus. Noted that the error with the Atto is "can't open" (30x before it gives up). 2. Radeon 7000 worked in single monitor mode for the install. 2nd monitor was black after reboot. Installation of Oct 2000 ATI retail update *fixed* this. Dual monitor mode works! 3. Both USB and Firewire on OrangeMicro dual-FW/dual-USB card work. 4. Farallon 10/100 card works fine. I guess the biggest issue is the Atto/SCSI one. I note that booting into OS9 is often preceeded by a quite long wait since I put the Atto card in. Is is possible that the OSX boot is simply not waiting long enough for the Atto card? Or is there a real problem opening the driver? |
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RE: PTP [9500] Radeon 7000 Atto OrangeMicro succes |
October, 25, 2002 4:24 PM |
greg831 |
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I also have a PTP (upgraded with an XLR8 G3/400) with the ATTO card (UL2D from OWC). I was only able to install 10.1 to a drive connected to the 5MB/sec ("external") scsi bus. However once the install was finished I switched the drive over to the fast scsi 10MB/sec ("internal") bus and 10.1 boots fine. I archived the contents of the 10.1 partition (using tar) and extracted into onto a drive connected to the ul2d (quantum atlas 10kII) with lvd scsi cable terminated at the end connector. I get the same result you do. Using XpostFacto 2.2.3 to boot into OSX I get error message can't OPEN: pci1/ATTO,ExpressPCIProUL2D/@0:9 quite a few times. I didn't count but 30 sounds about right. Then the system reboots into OS9. I've tried quite a few firmware revisions for the card (wish I could remember what the original version on the card was) but none have worked so far. If anyone is able to boot OSX from one of these cards I'd love to hear about your setup. |
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E: PTP [9500] Radeon 7000 Atto OrangeMicro success |
October, 24, 2002 9:43 PM |
jeglin |
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Not sure what an "auto-terminating" cable is :-) OTOH, when I bought my 9Gig Atlas drives (for a 2940UW), I did spend big bucks for a "high-quality" cable and a terminating device that plugs into the end of the cable. What's more, the ATTO has never once burped with that cable and the Atlas drives on OS9. And, once booted, OSX sees those 2 Atlas drives on the ATTO just fine, without one issue so far. It really seems like an ATTO booting issue to me, not a general ATTO problem. |
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RE: PTP [9500] Radeon 7000 Atto OrangeMicro succes |
October, 24, 2002 2:13 PM |
skip |
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Well, I've got an 8600 with that ATTO card (great deal, BTW) connected to an IBM 10k RPM 18G drive and a Seagate 7400 RPM 9G drive with 68-pin LVD cabling. No problems; OS 9 and OS X both work. However, if you use the ATTO and 68 pin cabling, expect to spend some serious dough to get an auto-terminating cable. It's much easier that way. I think most of the problems with SCSI on these machines is caused by termination, as the MESH (I think that's external) is only 5 MB/s straight SCSI while the internal on those machines was a 10 MB/s fast SCSI. The ATTO is 40 MB/s UltraWide, iirc, and LVD. Each one is successively more sensitive to being correctly terminated. So, the 5 MB/s external would have the least problem. Since you have a 68 pin drive, I'd just go get an LVD cable with an auto- terminator and try that. The Ultrastar should do at least 18 GB/s sustained, so running it on a 5 GB/s second link is kind of harsh... BTW, thanks for the note on the driver update. Perhaps that'll get my second monitor finally working... |
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