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RE: How to speed up OS X 10.2.6? |
September, 09, 2003 12:12 PM |
barryearly |
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Have you tried prebinding the system with MoxOptimze? You can get it free from versiontracker. |
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RE: How to speed up OS X 10.2.6? |
September, 09, 2003 11:28 AM |
marcush |
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Have you tried looking at the output of "top" in the terminal? Is there a process that is hogging cpu time? You can also get this info from process viewer in your ~/Applications/Utilities directory. At rest you would normally see roughly 90% of the cpu capacity available. What is yours like? |
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RE: How to speed up OS X 10.2.6? |
September, 09, 2003 6:11 AM |
voxxdigital |
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Powderhaus, in time - thanks for trying to help anyway. If there is anything I can help you as well, just let me know. |
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RE: How to speed up OS X 10.2.6? RYAN, PLEASE!! |
September, 09, 2003 6:09 AM |
voxxdigital |
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DRC, I tried your tip, but unfortunately I didn't feel any difference. Thanks anyway, I appreciate your concern. Powderhaus, I have the same 320 megs I had when I installed OS X10.2.0 (and it felt quite fast back then). No, it's not accessing the swap file constantly. I really feels like the processor was UNDERclocked. My wife has another Mac that I dug up from the basement, a PM7300 with 128 megs and orifinal PPC604e/200 processor, and ATI Rage Orion 128, running OS X 10.1.5. To be honest, it actually responds FASTER than the 9600 with the G3/400 processor!!! Plus, I just installed a flashed Radeon 7000 64MB DDR in the hope of improving speed and making the system snappier (Quartz Extreme is ON), but I barely can't tell the difference between the Radeon and the old Rage 128!!! Something is DEFINITELY WRONG! The system WAS really, noticeably faster with OS X 10.2.0. The slowdown I got now is not something that can be ignored, it's FRUSTRATING! If the L2 Cache Config app didn't show that the L2 cache is ON, I could sware that it is OFF! If feels off! :-( |
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RE: How to speed up OS X 10.2.6? |
September, 07, 2003 12:41 AM |
powderhaus |
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But i did notice that everything was a bit slower than before (on my previous 10.2.6 system) did you use the combo updater to get to 10.2 to 10.2.6? before i updated each one but his time i just used the updater... |
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RE: How to speed up OS X 10.2.6? |
September, 07, 2003 12:38 AM |
powderhaus |
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Make sure your Cache is enabled, if you are using XPF3, it does not enable your cache. I put the vnodes at 100000 and its working good, i have 664MB ram, but usually have 300mb free, so why wast em? |
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RE: How to speed up OS X 10.2.6? |
September, 07, 2003 12:21 AM |
powderhaus |
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Make sure your Cache is enabled, if you are using XPF3, it does not enable your cache. I put the vnodes at 100000 and its working good, i have 664MB ram, but usually have 300mb free, so why wast em? |
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RE: How to speed up OS X 10.2.6? |
September, 06, 2003 12:52 PM |
marcush |
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Do you hear a lot of disk activity? The other thing that could be happening is that your system does not have enough RAM. If you hear the disk being constantly accessed then the system is thrashing. That is, paging out idle processes to disk to clear room in memory for active processes. I experienced this under 10.1.5 when I had 512MB of RAM. I upgraded to 768MB and the problem dissapeared and performance picked up. I now have 1GB or RAM and from what I can tell the swap file is never accessed. |
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RE: How to speed up OS X 10.2.6? |
September, 06, 2003 12:31 AM |
drc |
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Here's something that was posted online recently, sorry I don't remember where. It perked up my system a bit. If you are seeing too many spinning beachballs or your system seems to get slower and slower and only a reboot fixes it. (or MacJanitor or running the Weekly script) If you have already added RAM then tuning the kernel parameter maxvnodes may help. If you are running on less than 512M do not do this. Buy RAM instead. If you have less than 1G RAM then instead of 84672 use 51904 instead of 84672 and use 36032 instead of 68800. If you are confused by this post, do not do anything until you fully understand the edits that you will be doing. The following instructions must be followed exactly! A typo could interfere with the efficiency of your system. Use cut/paste or type very carefully and slowly in your text editor. When editing /etc/rc make a backup copy first by: sudo cp /etc/rc /etc/rc.bck First to see if the change will be beneficial, wait unto your system is being sluggish and in a terminal window do the following commands: pstat -T sysctl kern.maxvnodes If the numbers are close then you likely will benefit from increasing the maximum number of vnodes by tuning. To try the tuning change without making it permanent: sudo sysctl -w kern.maxvnodes=84672 Run with this for awhile, but if you reboot it will be gone. Lets see if things get better. If you want it to survive a reboot then add similar lines to /etc/rc just below where is says, ConsoleMessage "Starting virtual memory" ## by cmr (put your initials if you like) /usr/sbin/sysctl -w kern.maxvnodes=68800 ## end cmr So the finished area will look like: ## # Start the virtual memory system. ## ConsoleMessage "Starting virtual memory" ## by cmr /usr/sbin/sysctl -w kern.maxvnodes=68800 ## end cmr swapdir=/private/var/vm if [ "${netboot}" = "1" ]; then     sh /etc/rc.netboot setup_vm ${swapdir} fi Even though the number '68800' is used above after a reboot the value of maxvnodes will go to 84672 because the SystemStart adds 512*(number of 32M segments of RAM - 1) to the number we set. If it doesn't make sense, don't worry about it :) An even higher number is working fine on my machine. |
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RE: How to speed up OS X 10.2.6? |
September, 05, 2003 3:57 PM |
voxxdigital |
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I tried System Optimizer, and all I got was to slow down the system even more. With System Optimizer, after all parameters set and all caches cleared, System Preferences icon bounces 18 times in the Dock before launch (after spinnig wheel). I have another machine, a PM7300 with 128M of RAM and original PPC604e/200MHz with OS X 10.1.5 installed, and it feels as miserably slow as my 9600/G3 400 is right now. Oh, rats. |
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RE: How to speed up OS X 10.2.6? |
September, 05, 2003 12:49 PM |
marcush |
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I've got a version of Norton Utilities for OS9, the last before System Works 1.0, from which I've used speed disk to optimize my OSX drive. I've also used Alsoft's Plus Optimizer. I didn't really see a noticeable improvement afterwards so I optimize rarely for now. I do run them on my 120GB storage drive that I use for video capture. That drive has to be kept unfragmented. |
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RE: How to speed up OS X 10.2.6? |
September, 05, 2003 12:08 PM |
voxxdigital |
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p.s.: the HD is a UW-SCSI-3 10,000 RPM, connected to the original fast-SCSI bus using an adaptor. Altough it's an under-use of the HD, it can at least give the full bandwidth of the old SCSI bus. I wish I could install a UW-SCSI-3 controller, but all my slots are full. |
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RE: How to speed up OS X 10.2.6? |
September, 05, 2003 12:05 PM |
voxxdigital |
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Thanks, I will try some of these apps and let you know. There is a very noticeable slowdown in my machine, like it were using the original CPU. I checked the disk fragmentation with the latest version of Norton (which is supposed to handle OS X disks) and it shows fragmentation as "severe". Should I rely on this? Sould I de-fragment the OS X disk with Norton? The idea scares me to death... |
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RE: How to speed up OS X 10.2.6? |
September, 05, 2003 11:26 AM |
marcush |
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10.2.6 seems roughly as fast as 10.2 to me personally, but there was a definite slowdown between 10.2-10.2.5. 10.2.5 was an improvement and now 10.2.6 is back to where it was in terms of performance relative to 10.2. The only thing I can think of which may be your trouble is that the system maintenance scripts are not getting run if you machine is not on 24x7. Unix systems run best if they are never shut down. If you do not leave your machine on all the time then try one of the freeware utilities that run the cron scripts on demand. There's Coctail, Jaguar Cache Cleaner, Cache Out, and System Optimizer to name a few. They will also delete caches that may have become corrupt over time and that can also have an impact on system performance. |