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The Soul of Country Music, Brotherly Bonding on the Country Rewind Tour & the Power of Collaborating

Country Rewind Tour – Bryan White, Darryl Worley, Andy Griggs

Don’t be afraid to really let it all hang out in front of other artists or other writers when you’re writing with them. I always say you learn a lot by being vulnerable, and work hard, develop your craft as a writer and as a singer, and don’t be afraid of constructive criticism because you’re only going to grow from that.

Bryan White

What do you get when you unite three award-winning singers with number 1 hits, songwriters, and musicians together? You get… Bryan White, Darryl Worley, and Andy Griggs. Their pedigree individually as well as collectively is the definition of the heart and soul that has resonated with their loyal fan base for years. On this episode of OWC’s Leaders & GameChangers, Setorii Pond speaks with them about their ability to effortlessly carry a room filled with admiring listeners, while lifting everyone’s spirit with their music and their genuine bond with each other as friends. They discuss their Country Rewind Tour which is a perfect night out and other insights you will only learn on this episode about their songs and advice. 

So, what makes a great country song? I personally believe it has a soulful twang you can feel all the way down to the bottom of your feet and the music they create and play on this tour fills all sorts of emotions for everyone in the audience. So, let’s giddy up everyone and start this fun episode. 


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In This Episode

  • 00:31 – Setorii introduces American country music singers and songwriters, Brian White, Daryl Worley, and Andy Griggs, who are having the Country Rewind Tour.
  • 02:17 – Bryan and Andy explain the similarities and differences they have and how they complement each other.
  • 03:43 – Bryan, Darryl, and Andy reminisce about their past on how they started in music and what made them the artists they are today.
  • 09:45 – Setorii asks Bryan, Darryl, and Andy how country music has changed in the past years and how it affected their experience in creating music.
  • 13:00 – Bryan, Darryl, and Andy share their advice to upcoming music artists.
  • 18:09 – Bryan, Darryl, and Andy talk about their favorite songs they’ve written and the meaning behind the songs. 
  • 22:19 – Bryan, Darryl, and Andy share how the Country Rewind Tour came about and their experiences during the tour.
  • 34:22 – Bryan, Darryl, and Andy share about the new records and songs they are working on.
  • 39:24 – Bryan, Darryl, and Andy talk about the charities that they are involved in.
  • 44:14 – Setorii, Bryan, Darryl, and Andy encourage listeners to watch Country Rewind Tour. For the tour schedules, check out Bryan White, Darryl Worley, and Andy Griggs‘ respective websites.

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Transcript

What do you get when you unite three award-winning singers with number one hits songwriters and musicians together? You get Bryan White, Darryl Worley, and Andy Griggs. Their pedigree individually, as well as collectively, is the definition of heart and soul that has resonated with their loyal fan base for years. Their ability to effortlessly carry a room filled with admiring listeners while lifting everyone’s spirits with their music and their genuine bond for each other as friends makes their Country Rewind Tour a perfect night out. What makes a great country song? I believe it has a soulful twang that you can feel all the way down to the bottom of your feet. And the music that they create and play on this tour feels all sorts of emotions for everyone in the audience. So let’s giddy up everyone and start this fun episode.

Thank you so much for joining me on this episode of OWC’s Leaders & Game Changers. And today, I am joined by Darryl, Bryan, and Andy. Thank you so much for making time out of your busy tour schedule.

BW: Thank you. Thanks for having us.

I loved watching the synergy of how all of you work together on stage. Could you share a little bit about how each of you are so different–your personalities? Who’s the comedian, who’s the troublemaker, and how everybody is different? Could you explain a little bit to the listeners?

BW: In this case, the differences really complement each other. I think from the listener’s perspective, and they get such a cool, diverse package with us. We all do something different, but we all love great songs. These guys have some of the best songs that I’ve heard in the past 20 years. And I get to hear him every night and get to play guitar on them. It’s fun for me. Everybody has a little bit of a different style, and I think it all complements each other. Again, it makes it fun for all of us. I think it’s fun for the listener out there, too.

Everybody has his own style, that's why we complement each other. – Bryan White Click To Tweet

Andy, who would you say is the troublemaker on tour? Who’s the comedian?

AG: I think there’s a little bit of all of that within us as far as the comedian is concerned. If I have to say troublemaker, probably Worley. But as far as the comedian is concerned, all we do is feed off of each other anyway. I don’t think anybody or one person gets the award for that. But if somebody is going to throw a banana on a ship at sea, it will probably be Worley.

Could you both share when was the first time that you picked up a guitar and how did it make you feel? Obviously, that started this trajectory of where you’re on. Could you let us know how this all began?

BW: My dad was a guitar player. I remember my first few memories were messing around with his guitar. And the first song he ever showed me that I learned like learning the whole song on guitar was a song called Swingin’ by John Anderson. And that’s the first song I ever learned. I remember specifically, when I put a few chords together that my dad showed me, I realized that it wasn’t as hard as I thought it was. Once I realized I could play something that in turn wasn’t that complex. Like I thought it was. It was exciting. That’s kind of when I first got excited about it, and I was like, “Oh, well, maybe I can play.”

Darryl, can you remember the first time that you wrote a song when you picked up your guitar and how did it make you feel?

DW: I think the first song that I would consider a good solid song was Louisiana Rain. It was after college, and I was living in South Louisiana, working in the paper industry. Andy can relate to this, but the first six months that I lived there, it rained every day for six months. Now it didn’t rain all day, every day, but somewhere I was sick every day because I marked it on the calendar. And I was about to get depressed, and I thought I got to write a song. I had no guitar with me, and it’s the first time I really poured my heart into one. It was pretty cool. I still get tons of requests for it when I’m playing around at home. So it stood the test of time.

Andy, can you share a thought that comes to mind for when you may be picked up a guitar or the first time you wrote a song? Could you just describe it to us?

AG: I never picked a guitar up until my brother passed away. He was the singer and the musician. I was 18 when he died, and he was 21. My way of grieving was picking up his guitar and learning how to play his songs. My only way of grieving was through that. I didn’t grow up playing. I grew up loving music, don’t get me wrong. I had a house full of music, but I was probably 19 years old and just starting to learn his songs. I was the late one in class. Everybody else starts when they’re young. I was a late bloomer.

It’s very telling because a lot of people connect with music. It’s a form of healing in a sense, whether it’s you’re writing it or listening to it. Do you all feel that when you talk to fans and hear the stories of some of the music that you created, do you see firsthand the impact that you have on people that just love your music? Can you share maybe a thought or a story that stands out as to when you’re creating the music or fans that have shared thoughts of how it’s touched them?

AG: That’s why I came to Nashville. I think if you come to Nashville for any other reason, you’re constantly walking uphill, and you never catch that wheel. I hate that wheel, that’s the nature of the business. And most artists I know, or they’re encumbered with day to day trying to catch that train, that wheels the next day, the next day. And they never stop. Nothing is ever complete. I didn’t really come to Nashville to become a member of the Grand Ole Opry and have all of these guests and do all of these darn buses and big lights and be a megastar. I came to affect somebody the way music has affected me. To me, that’s the biggest reward and award out of all of the music industry. I can speak for Bryan and Darryl. We know plenty of people who would say differently about themselves. But no, the greatest award and reward in this town for me is when somebody tells me how they’ve been affected by their music.

Don’t be afraid to let it all hang out in front of other artists or writers when you’re writing with them. You learn a lot by being vulnerable. - Bryan White
Don’t be afraid to let it all hang out in front of other artists or writers when you’re writing with them. You learn a lot by being vulnerable. – Bryan White

Darryl, Bryan, could you maybe share who gave you the support to keep writing in the beginning? Who did you play the songs for when you first started writing music?

DW: I’ll make it quick. For me, it was my mother. She was a music lover and an incredible singer. The very first time I played her something that I had written myself, she said, “I’ve never heard that, Darryl. What are you learning?” I said, “I’m trying to learn how to write them myself.” She goes, “You wrote that?” I said, “Yes, ma’am.” And she said, “Darryl. That’s really good. You’ve got a gift. If you choose to pursue that, you can take it just as far as you want to.” She always felt that way about everything. She told us we could accomplish anything we wanted to if we were willing to work hard enough. And then my dad would say things like, “You better hang on to that regular check. Keep your day job, boy.”

BW: I remember that’s who I bounce things off of was my mom, my brother, and my dad. I remember just always feeling encouraged by all of them about what I was doing. I didn’t even get the impression that they thought I had arrived as a songwriter, but it was encouragement just to keep moving forward. That’s what I remember the most.

You all started, and you followed your passion for all different reasons. Country music has changed so much in the last five years, let alone 20 years. Can you all share your own experience of creating music and living through it and how you feel that the music industry itself and the music that you create in the audience and the accessibility to you and to your fans has changed in the last five to 20 years?

AG: I try not to pay much attention to it. It gets mind-boggling. To me, music is music no matter if there’s a steel guitar in it or not. I don’t label or compartmentalized things like, this is country, this is soul, this is RnB. To me, music is music. If you sing from the soul, then I don’t care what it is; you win me. I don’t care if it’s Ozzy Osborne, or Jimmy Swaggart, or whoever in between. If you don’t sing from the soul, I’m not a fan. As far as how this town has changed, of course, it’s changed. Has it changed our careers? Sure, it has. Our careers become a roller coaster ride because of it. I just try to keep my nose to the ground, so I know what I’m doing. And I try to sing from the soul. If I quit doing that, I need to go find something else to do.

DW: That was good.

BW: I couldn’t say any better than that. Good music is good music. Our industry, it’s about trends, and things are always changing and evolving. But what we all know as country music is not changing. It’s just the trends and the way people make records and those kinds of things.

DW: I could add this to it. I think I’d be safe. I love what both those guys said. The one thing, that’s probably a little bit different. I’m way older than both of these guys too. I got started late. Andy was talking about being a late bloomer. I can relate to that. My music came out in the early 2000s. And things were already starting to change. And I immediately started feeling resistance from the label to make music that was not what I do naturally. My whole idea was a little more traditional than what they heard from me. I thought, “Man, this is gonna be a struggle.” And it was, and it was also a struggle for them, like the promotional people, the record promoters, to get some of those songs that we wanted to put out there. It was very difficult for them. Some of the hits that we had were very difficult to accomplish. And so I’m thankful for every little tiny bit of success that we had, and I think it was just due to determination and hard work. I’m kind of like Andy. I love all kinds of music. I couldn’t do all different kinds of music, but I love lots of different kinds of music. And I think if you put your heart and soul in it, it’s gonna be good. 

Speaking about the soul, and singing from your soul, and being truly immersed in the music, and having passion. Knowing what you know, what advice would you give to up-and-coming artists? There’s a lot of advice that I think all three of you could give to people that are listening.

DW: I’ll answer quickly, It’ll be very quick because I’ve had to answer this a bunch of times, and I’m the eldest. I’ve learned that giving people advice is usually a dead-end road. So I just came up with a couple of things that I always say, and number one is to write songs. Don’t always expect someone else to play your biggest hit song because they don’t know you. I believe there needs to be some sort of connection between the artist and the song. And then some people probably don’t feel that way. Secondly, I would say, it’s very important to know who you are. And when I say that, I mean know yourself musically, know who you are, because they’re certainly going to try to change that.

I couldn’t do all different kinds of music but I love all kinds of music. I think if you put your heart and soul in it, it’s gonna be good. – Darryl Worley

BW: I’d say we’re in a climate right now where kids are so busy putting the cart before the horse. Your platform looks great, your Instagram, all these games, your graphics, all the different things that might look like you’ve got all that stuff together. But if you don’t have a burger where there’s a line stretched around three or four blocks. People want to try that burger. If you don’t have a product that’s great and exceptional. It’s all for nothing. That’s something that I try to tell younger artists is the hard work pays off. Really develop your craft as a writer. Work hard, don’t be afraid to really let it all hang out in front of other artists. When you write with other artists, I always say that you learn a lot by being vulnerable. Work hard, develop your craft as a writer and as a singer, and don’t be afraid of constructive criticism because you’re only going to grow from that.

Andy, do you have any thoughts?

AG: No. I just say sing from the soul. If not, pack your bags and go back home. It just all comes down to that. Either hand me your heart and soul bloody on a platter when you sing or don’t. If you hand it to me, I’ll take it, and then I’m your biggest fan. If you don’t, then you’re not going to have any longevity. Though it’s not true these days because a lot of them do. But as far as I’m concerned, just sing with your soul.

Speaking about what Bryan had shared about writing, can you explain the structural flow of how you create a song. Do you follow a formula when you write? I would love to understand kind of the makings of how you actually create?

BW: I think it happens differently each time, Setorii. Sometimes I’ll sit around, and I’ll start banging out some sort of guitar part or some kind of riff or rhythm, and it’ll kind of tell me what it wants to be. And I’ll just start singing a kind of what we call a “dummy,” just kind of dummy words and dummy lyrics. The melody starts first. And then there are other times where I’ll spend the first hour just jotting down some stream of consciousness stuff. There’s a bunch of writers that have really influenced me a lot. One of them, I’ve had the good fortune of writing a bunch of songs with a guy named James Dean Hicks. One of the things that he’s talked about in some of the clinics I’ve been able to be a part of, like workshop things with him, he always says, “Who are you talking to? What are you trying to say? Why would anybody want to hear what you’re trying to say?” And I’ve always thought about that, and you want to think of it as a template. Because I think you can learn the craft in the beginning, but eventually, once you learn who you are as a writer, I always tell people to start breaking those rules. At that point, you want to have your identity and what you’re doing. But it is great to understand the structural flow of a song, and you want to try not to go over the same ground twice, and you want to always be pointing toward the idea or the concept. Those are some things I think about when I’m trying to try to write a song.

Darryl, can you share the meaning behind maybe one or two of your favorite songs that you wrote? 

DW: Sure. Before I do that, thank you very much for all your kind words. It’s really flattering that you felt so much of what we unconsciously subconsciously do. Being on stage with two other guys like that gives us a moment sometimes to look over to the left or the right and see that too, that’s really pretty entertaining. And it’s really a cool thing, especially with guys that you know, and you love and enjoy what they do. Thank you very much for that. Let’s just take Have You Forgotten? for instance, that’s about the biggest thing that I’ve had going. And it’s just so simple. It’s really always been a song to just remind us that many people have sacrificed, even up to the point of sacrificing their lives for our way of life. Let’s remember that this nation is a strong nation, but we didn’t start that way. There’s been a lot that we’ve endured and always appreciate the freedoms and the liberties. Let’s try to hang on to those as well.

Andy, could you please explain the meaning of maybe one of your favorite songs?

AG: Probably the song that I sing that had the biggest impact on me. I didn’t have a hand in writing. It’s entitled If Heaven. That’s always a special moment when I’m singing. It started out that was for me and my mama. I can’t tell you how many times I hear how that’s helped, people. How many services that are still now being played at. Almost every show, somebody has a request that just lost a loved one. I didn’t write that, but I would say If Heaven had the most impact on me.

Bryan, would you be kind enough to share maybe one that stands out of something that maybe you wrote or that you play that you just love?

BW: I’d probably say one of the most special songs to me was probably my first big hit is a song called Someone Else’s Star. The fact that it was a guitar vocal demo, that kind of got upgraded with a few overdubs, and it was kind of like the little song that could, it took forever to get to charts, but it kind of grew legs along the way, and became my first big hit and kind of put me on the map. That’s one of the songs that people will tell me made a big impact on them.

You’re all on tour right now, it’s called the Country Rewind Tour. Could you tell us about how that tour came about? And maybe your thoughts about sharing, maybe the energy from the audience, or what you have gathered from your experience of just working together during this time right now?

DW: Just going out and working the road with a show like this, I’ve never done anything like this. And it’s been a lot of fun. It’s absolutely a different concept. To hear you talk about it the way you have, how there are individual moments where we’re doing our own thing, and then the energy of the three of us together. That’s pretty cool. I never really even thought about it that way. The idea of sitting on this side of it, and knowing that you felt that way, I would guess maybe people feel like they’re getting their money’s worth. That’s always a good thing. So it’s just been a really good mix of personalities and songs. I agree with what Bryan said earlier. We all do something a little different. It’s a little something for everybody. I think there’s some real crossover with our fans, too. I’ve noticed that our fan bases overlap some. That’s a very cool thing. It’s just been a positive experience for me all the way around.

I couldn't do all different kinds of music but I love all kinds of music. I think if you put your heart and soul in it, it's gonna be good. - Darryl Worley
I couldn’t do all different kinds of music but I love all kinds of music. I think if you put your heart and soul in it, it’s gonna be good. – Darryl Worley

BW: I don’t know a ton about how it came together, either. I’m just glad that they thought of me to be a part of it. Just like Darryl said. I’m so thrilled to be out on it. And I’ve been having so much fun. These guys are just awesome. It’s so good to laugh. And it’s so good to play music and be out with people. I really look forward to every time I get in my truck to drive to either meet at the bus or go to the venue. It’s so good. These guys are so fun. This is a blast.

I really had a wonderful time. It was fun. Andy, can you share maybe a thought of what you think that this tour is doing or what your thoughts are about the tour just working with everybody together? You would never know that you’re not a band because of the way you all worked out like you were like peas in a pod.

AG: I’m very fortunate to be a part of this. Obviously, we’ve known each other for a long time. We all go way back. Nashville is a small circle, but then again, when it comes to friends, it’s a tiny little circle. I can’t say that I’m great friends with that many artists, but I am with Bryan; I always have been with Worley, so it helps out that we have that kind of karma, that kind of electricity on stage where it’s not just about the music. Darryl plays great music, Bryan plays great music, I’d like to think that I add to that a little bit also; but to me, the Creole seasoning is not the music, the Creole seasoning is our friendship and our aura that the three of us make. So yeah, it is a totally different deal. Like I said, I’ve kind of been stepbrother and end of this thing because the original is Darryl, Bryan, and Wade. When one of them can’t do a show, I’ve kind of gotten a phone call. And that’s led into two or three. It’s been an honor every time I step up on stage with those two comrades, it’s just the three amigos. That’s what I think about every time we step up on stage, it’s great. And I’ve said this before, and it also doesn’t hurt that we have a string of hits a mile long between the three of us anyway.

On stage, the creole seasoning is not the music, the creole seasoning is our friendship and our aura that the three of us make. - Andy Griggs
On stage, the creole seasoning is not the music, the creole seasoning is our friendship and our aura that the three of us make. – Andy Griggs

I was watching the crowd and everybody you’d see some people crying, some people singing. It was awesome seeing that. Working together obviously is fabulous, but who would be maybe musical collaboration that you may have always wanted to or you think would be really cool to work with and create a song with that you haven’t actually worked with yet? Is there anybody in the industry that stands out that you thought, “If I could, that would be something I’d really love to create something with”?

DW: Keith Whitley, I almost had studied his stylings too much when I started singing in Nashville. And I know my producer, Frank Rogers, used to say, “Can we try to do that not so much like Keith Whitley or whatever?” I’d say, “I didn’t realize I was doing that.” So he kind of helped me find myself. Whitley was such a huge influence. I always thought it would have been a really cool thing to sit down with Keith and try to create a song. I know he wrote stuff, and he had songs that he had written by himself and with others. I don’t know how much that was a part of who he was, but I’ve just always thought that would have been a cool thing to do.

Bryan, does anyone come to mind of somebody that you’d really love to collaborate with?

BW: The pinnacle for me, my hero, Steve Wariner. I don’t think I’d even be here if it weren’t for Steve’s music and his phrasing and his plan and just who he is as an artist. But a guy that I don’t know very well, I think I’ve met him once, but another guy that I just idolized growing up, I loved Ronnie Milsap with a passion. I loved his music. I love his vocal style. I love the fact that he could pretty much sing anything. He could sing something so traditional at one minute and then the next minute sing something on the other side of the fence, and he just had a stellar career. Ronnie would have been a guy, or maybe there’s still hope, but he’s a guy that I would love to either do a show with or our sitting room and sing with or do a duet sometime. He’s one of my heroes, too.

I love that. Andy, could you possibly share your thoughts with us?

AG: My biggest was Waylon, and I did get a chance to become friends with Waylon and do a duet with Waylon, and we did a lot of stuff on the road together. But I would love to sit and play and sing with Jerry Lee Lewis on the piano and just soak up his vocals. If I could wiggle my nose right now, that’s what I would do.

Is there a question that maybe you have never been asked before, but you’d love to be able to share with listeners something about you, about your music, about future thoughts? Anything that you wish to share. Could everybody just share something that comes to mind?

AG: As a music lover, I didn’t realize how much heart, soul, time, and life you have to sacrifice to become that singer, that artist. I don’t think people realize that. I don’t think people realize that to do what we do is a sacrifice. Every dream has a sacrifice, and it’s not just cotton candy land. It’s a tough route that we take. Bryan, Worley, and I were talking about this the other night on the bus; music can be an adulterous woman. You’re married to her, and as many times as you get aggravated, and you say you wanted to get a divorce from that adulterous woman, you never do. She’s your best friend. She’s your worst enemy. She’s your only landing post sometimes. Sometimes she’s there. Sometimes she’s not. So I don’t think that just as a listener, sometimes I don’t think they realize what from Hank Williams to Jerry Lee to Darryl to Bryan and me and everybody in between. I don’t think that they realize what a rollercoaster ride music is. I’m not talking about hits going up and down, I’m just talking about the lifestyle of music. It is a roller coaster ride.

But it does have such a prolific impact on people that just love what you create.

DW: Let me add something to that. So I am definitely all in, and my wife would say, “He is so all in.” But the thing I think is funny with me anyway, and these guys, I’m sure would absolutely concur, is that let’s say in the last five or six years, and maybe even 10, that may be a stretch, but I think having a child in my life has changed a lot. Because I always thought I was a selfless person, what I didn’t realize was what Andy was talking about. Is that I was given it all to the music and the career and the gigs and everything that you have to do to make it be what it needs to be. In the last seven or eight years, I could say of my life, but I think it’s probably better to say of my daughter’s life and of my wife’s life, I’ve realized, it really does take you away from everything else in your life. If you’re not the kind of person that can handle that, it would be very difficult. And not only that, but you have to be alone a lot. Sometimes that’s not the easiest thing in the world. I’m pretty good at it because that’s just kind of my personality. But that’s I know a lot of guys in our business that really struggle with that. 

Music can take you away from everything else in your life. If you can't handle that, it would be very difficult. – Darryl Worley Click To Tweet

How about Bryan? What are your thoughts?

BW: Setorii, I don’t know if I can say anything any better than what they’ve just said. But it’s very true. It took me a while to sort of find my “sea legs,” so to speak. But the music kind of grew me up in a good way. And I wasn’t always a type-A personality, but I like who I am. And there are good things that have come about by being in the industry. And I think it kind of grew me up in a lot of good ways. But they’re right. There are a lot of sacrifices. Like, “Hey, Dad’s going off because he’s paying the house note by going and playing.” “So that’s a good thing that dad’s going to work, but the downside is. Dad’s going away for a little while.” There’s a lot of things like that, that you got to juggle. Darryl made me think of something too. I’m a lot better at saying “no” to things now than I used to be. Back in the day, when you’re just killing it, I didn’t know who I was at the beginning of my career. So I sort of let a lot of what people just dictate where I went and what I did. I didn’t even know how to say “no.” And now, it’s really easy for me to look at a situation, weigh it and go, “You know what, this is not worth sacrificing my time because my kid has this,” or whatever it might be. I’m a lot more confident with saying “no” these days.

How much longer is your tour? And like I said to everybody listening, I absolutely recommend that you have to go see them on their tour. So how much longer can people actually check you all out?

BW: What I’ve been told by our promoter is that as long as they’ll have us, we’re going to keep plowing away. I mean, as I understand, we’re going to try to work all the way until the end of the year. So what I’ve understood anyway.

That’s great. Do you all have any new records or new songs coming out that you’ve been working on?

BW: I have a tune that is going to be coming out pretty soon. I didn’t write it. Mac McAnally and Steve Wariner wrote it. It’s called Busy Doing Nothing. And that’s the latest thing that I’m working on. 

That’s great. When would people be able to listen to that, Bryan?

BW: We’re mixing it right now and working on the artwork. Probably with a little bit of a campaign, I’d say maybe a month from now. Maybe just in time for spring, hopefully.

Perfect. Darryl, are you working on anything you wish to share?

DW: We have a greatest hits package. It’s called Darryl Worley Second Wind: Latest and Greatest. And it didn’t really get the send-off that it needed, so we’re kind of contemplating maybe trying to do a better job of creating some awareness around that. I am beginning to work on my very first Christian project. I’ve always said I was gonna do it someday, and so we’re going to start right away. We’ve been doing a little pre-production stuff, and I’ve written most of the songs. And then I have a couple of country things that are getting a lot of attention from the people that help us get stuff out there right now. We may be going back to satellite radio and some other places to kind of release a couple of those things here in the near future. So just kind of got to always keep the wheels rolling. 

Okay, so if you’re going to repackage it, are you just going to do another launch on it right now?

DW: I don’t even know if we will repackage it, we’re all really happy with the artwork, the way that turned out. So if we can kind of get that back from some of the people that we were working with, and just say, “Hey, let us just take the project and go from here, we just might do a little bit of a different type of release to create more awareness about it and really get it out there. And the other thing that we may do is just release a bunch of the new songs that are on there. We had eight of the old hit songs and seven brand new ones. 

That’s great. Okay, I’ll make sure to include a link to it so listeners can get that. And then Andy, could you share maybe with us?

AG: Right before the pandemic hit, we were going into the studio with some music. I’m not thankful for the pandemic, by no means, that completely shut us down. It shut everybody down. But I’ve had a year to sit on what I was going to record. And now I want to make a few changes. Again, I’m not glad of the pandemic. You’re constantly evolving, you’re constantly maturing if you want to call it “maturing,” but either way, you’re constantly evolving. I’m not the same guy I was. I plan on going back in, probably. With that much work, we’ll be out on the road for a long time. Probably this is coming up winter before I go back to the studio.

Does anybody want to share a goal that they have that they hope that by the next year or so that you hope to be able to implement or achieve? 

BW: As Andy said, I’m not the same guy I was three years ago, either, and I hope that I can continue to keep looking back and seeing growth. Just being more and more aware of the things that I needed to work on. Continuing to look back and see growth, I think that’s just my continued goal. I mean, mental health is a really big, hot topic. Especially with the past year, there are tons of people out of work in our industry, lots of people really struggling financially and mentally, and that’s really something that I’m very passionate about. So I am very focused on that awareness and keep that heightened and doing all I can to influence people that if you’re struggling, you need to reach out and get help. I think there’s a lot of stigmas and raising awareness that it’s okay to not be okay, and reach out and get some help.

Really quickly, could you all share, if you wish to, a charity that you’re all passionate about? That was very telling, Bryan, and very important. For listeners listening, I think it could really help people to understand a charity that you’re either passionate about or that you’re involved with.

DW: We do tons of stuff with lots of different organizations, but I have the Darryl Worley Foundation. And we have been working on that since 2002. It’s one of my favorite things that I do in my whole life. It’s the thing that I think, if someone will see that and go, “That’s valuable, that should be carried on.” Maybe the music will go away, but that’s not going to go away because it’s all about helping people. It used to be very regional, but in the last few years, we’ve helped people all over the United States, and so I can go and get the numbers. I know exactly what’s happening with that money. There’s none of this 75% goes to all the other stuff and 25% to the cause. Every dime goes to our cause, and so I’m just very passionate about that.

Thank you for sharing that, I’ll make sure to include that in our article.

BW: I work a lot and do a lot of philanthropy work with a health care system 501(c)(3) called MultiCare Inland Northwest Foundation, and they’re out of Spokane. And MultiCare has the leading behavioral health support in the entire state of Washington. They do a lot of great work. They specialize in partnering with people for the greater good. I’m actually hosting an event tonight, and the whole cause is for mental health. It’s a big concert with a bunch of artists, and it’s raising funds for mental health care and a lot of patient stories. And they’ve also partnered with MusiCares. I know Andy and Darryl probably know about MusiCares. It’s an organization started by the Grammys, and they do a lot of really great work for our industry, not just Nashville but nationwide. And so they’ve both partnered together for this event to raise awareness and raise money for our music community, and then the communities in the Inland Northwest too. That’s an organization that I do a lot of work with that I really believe in what they do. 

Thank you for that. That’s great. Andy, is there anything that you wish to share with any charity that comes to mind?

AG: Just like everybody else, I’ve been a part of a lot of them. St. Jude’s was always probably number one on the list. But lately, the last few years, it’s been TAPS. I wasn’t even all that familiar with TAPS. It’s all the family who has lost a loved one in the military. And I did not know anything about them. We did an album for them, and everything, and little did I know of, the song that I sang called K9 Brother, that was the first single that was released right about now last year. Right when COVID hit was when that single was released. So I’ve done in the last several years, I’ve probably been more affiliated with TAPS more than anything else. And like I said, it goes straight to all families who’ve lost a family member, whether it’s a husband, wife, child, whatever. It’s a cool organization.

Bryan and Andy, if you don’t mind telling me, what does success mean to you?

AG: To me, success is touching someone. It’s not the mailbox money, it’s not the tour money, it’s not the tour bus, it’s not the stage, it’s not making my name in a newspaper. To me, success is when somebody comes to me broken, saying that my song has helped them through a valley because I identify with that. That’s why I moved to Nashville. That was one of your first questions. And that’s kind of how I answered. To me, that is success. Has it happened? Yes. So has my career no matter what’s happened. Do I consider my career a success? Absolutely, because I’ve seen that.

Success is when somebody comes to me saying that my song has helped them through a valley. – Andy Griggs Click To Tweet

Thank you, Andy.

BW: I know I keep copping out, but man, their answers are so good. I couldn’t say any better than that. I 100% agree with that right there. And I think maybe carrying that to being a dad, and I think just the fact that I look at my kids and see them growing up and become a gentleman. And I feel like that’s been a success. As flawed as I am, and as far as I’ve got to go in terms of learning how to be a better dad and a better husband, I feel like that’s a part of it too. I feel like we’ve been successful when I look at these kids. They look like they’re gentlemen, and I think that’s a success, too. 

I want to thank you all. Thank you, Andy. Thank you, Darryl. Thank you, Bryan, for making time for this podcast, and wishing you much success on this continued tour. Please, if you could all let everybody know where they could find more information about you. 

BW: Thank you for having us too. Great talking with you, and it was great meeting you in person a few weeks ago, back in Texas. And I’m just grateful to be a part of the show. They can just go to BryanWhite.com, and they can navigate from there to all the social platforms. And they can pretty much find out where I am and what I’m doing.

Thank you, Bryan. Andy?

AG: Thank you so much for having me. It’s been great. It’s always a pleasure. They can get in touch with me and what I’m doing, and AndyGriggs.com, I think that’s how they can do it. I appreciate your time.

And Darryl? Let’s give this a shot.

DW: DarrylWorley.com. Of course, we’re all over the social media stuff too. And I just started TikTok recently because I found out that it has a whole music part of it. And I didn’t even know that. And so I’m starting to build a pretty good following on there. So they can check me out there too. And again, like they said, thank you so much for having us. You’ve been a wonderful host. I’m thankful that you got to speak from a seat of experience that you actually saw the show. 

I was so moved by what I experienced that I really was like, “I have to put this in front. I really wanted to get this out to as many people as possible.” The synergy of what you have and the way you moved people was really inspiring. So I just want to say thank you again for your time. 



Checklist

  1. Be willing to work hard for the passions you want to pursue. You can accomplish anything through hard work and determination.
  2. Put your heart and soul into your music. Your music can touch the soul of your listeners and it can be a form of healing for them.
  3. Know who you are musically. This will help you stand your ground as an artist. 
  4. Hang out with different artists and learn from them.
  5. Don’t be afraid of constructive criticism. It will help you grow as an artist.
  6. Develop your craft as a writer. Work hard to write your own songs. Don’t always expect that someone will give you their songs.
  7. Find inspiration for your music. You need to know what you want to convey through your music. Always ask yourself these questions, “Who are you talking to? What are you trying to say? Why would anybody want to hear what you’re trying to say?”
  8. Understand and learn the basic structural flow of a song. This will help you shape your song.
  9. Once you learn and understand the basics of songwriting, break some rules. This will establish your identity as an artist.
  10. Be confident enough to say “No.” Don’t let the people around you dictate where you will go in your career. You have to weigh every situation whether it is worth the sacrifice. 
  11. Watch Country Rewind Tour. For the tour schedules, check out Bryan White, Darryl Worley, and Andy Griggs‘ respective websites.

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