Crime Drama “Adverse” stars Thomas Nicholas, Mickey Rourke, Sean Astin, Lou Diamond Phillips and Penelope Miller Opening in Theaters Feb 12, 2021

Host Cirina Catania pulls open the curtains and has a very candid conversation with Thomas Nicholas about his work as an actor and musician. Thomas stars alongside Academy Award nominee, Mickey Rourke in “Adverse,” opening in theaters on Friday, February 12th. This neo-noir drama is about a ride-share driver who discovers that his sister is in debt to a dangerous crime syndicate. It was filmed in the moody, dark, night-time streets of Los Angeles and explores the love that we have for family and how far we will go to protect them.

Written, directed and produced by Brian A. Metcalf and Produced by Thomas Nicholas and Kelly Arjen, the movie also stars Academy Award nominee, Sean Astin,, Golden Globe nominee, Lou Diamond Phillips, and Golden Globe nominee, Penelope Ann Miller.


  • 00:12 – Cirina introduces Thomas Nicholas, an actor, musician, and a member of the cast of the Neo-noir crime thriller film, Adverse. Adverse is directed by Brian Metcalf. It’s great cast includes Mickey Rourke, Penelope Ann Miller, Sean Astin, Kelly Arjun, and Lou Diamond Phillips.
  • 06:07 – Thomas reminisces about growing up and how he was introduced to the world of acting.
  • 10:22 – Thomas talks about his new film, Adverse, which will be out in theaters on February 12th.
  • 13:00 – Thomas points out the difference between the Meisner and Stanislavski acting methods.
  • 16:26 – Thomas talks about his fellow actors in the movie and his amazing experiences with them.
  • 23:44 – Cirina asks Thomas how he met Brian Metcalf and how they became producing partners.
  • 28:47 – Thomas shares the premiere date of the film, Adverse, and how the listeners can watch it in theaters.
  • 30:24 – Cirina asks Thomas about the equipment he purchased from OWC and how he uses it.
  • 37:43 – Thomas shares how he manages to compartmentalize both his personal life and life as an actor
  • 41:01 – Thomas talks about his life as a musician and his music.
  • 43:15 – Cirina and Thomas encourage listeners to check out the Adverse trailer at and to watch it in theaters.

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The very talented, Thomas Nicholas, is here with us today to talk about his life as an Actor and Musician. On Friday, February 12th, just a few days from now, the neo-noir Crime Thriller from Lionsgate “Adverse”, is being released in theaters. Yes, in theaters. You can go to Fandango and find out where you can see it, grab some popcorn, settle in, and take a wild ride through the night streets of Los Angeles. This film is directed by Brian Metcalf with a great cast that includes Thomas Nicholas, Mickey Rourke, Penelope Ann Miller, Sean Astin, Kelly Arjun, and Lou Diamond Phillips. Let’s listen to the trailer.

(Plays “Adverse” Official Trailer)

I had a great conversation with Thomas. It was one of those peak-behind-the-curtain moments that I love and you will enjoy it, too. So welcome back, let’s listen in with Thomas Ian Nicholas.

I’m very excited. My new film, Adverse is being released in theaters if you can believe it, on February 12th. Socially distanced, of course, we’re all staying safe. But obviously, a lot of states have different regulations and rates of safety versus Los Angeles, which we’re not doing very well here. I’m very excited about this film, it’s something different for me as an actor, and I also produced the movie. I’m taking a turn into a more dramatic role as an actor than people are probably more familiar with me.

That’s awesome. So that brings up a lot of things we need to talk about. First of all, theaters, how did you manage that? That’s tough right now. Everybody’s talking about all the theaters being closed. So how wide is the release? Is it regional or national?

Our plan prior to even dealing with what we are right now was always to do a platform release starting in 50 theaters, and if it stays and doesn’t nominally then it would just move on to VOD if it does better than it can expand. That’s sort of the basis of a platform release. So we’re doing that, we’re hitting into 50 theaters as we had intended. Back on January 7th, we got word from the film buyer that a number of theaters had reopened because like I said, there’s a lot of different rates of safety in different states. But we are being safe in the sense that, no offense to Tennessee, we’re not releasing into theaters that are allowing 100% capacity. We’re only releasing those that are doing a limited capacity because we want to be responsible filmmakers as excited as we are about being in theaters.

You joined the PGA when you started producing this movie, right? Welcome!

Thank you.

Awesome. Great group!

Yeah, it’s my first time getting into a different union outside of the Screen Actors Guild, which I’ve been in since 1986. So thank you. I had a couple of friends that were my sponsors into the PGA and I thought that it was a good time on my fourth or fifth film, to really say, “I’m not just pretending to produce, I’m really doing this.”

They have some pretty stringent requirements to get in. But once you’re in, it’s an amazing group of people. Some of your best friends are probably going to also come from the PGA. You’ve been in SAG-AFTRA since the 80s. Talk to us about how you grew up, and then we are going to get back to Adverse, but I’m very curious about Thomas growing up, where were you? And what was life like?

Wow. I’ve grown up in the Valley, Los Angeles since the 80s. I was born in Vegas, my mom grew up in San Jose so we lived up in Northern California and Santa Cruz for a minute, but came down here. In fact, for my mom to pursue her career as an actor and her involvement in the business, doing things as a background casting director, created some opportunities for me that gave me the experience because it wasn’t my mom pushing me toward it, it was me getting her out of a jam on an independent film, but then just loving being on set. That’s what I love, the energy that’s on set. Just a group of people all focused on the same thing. It’s a momentary family, it’s like being on tour with my band. It’s the same vibe, a heightened reality. I started pursuing it at that point and did. I paid my dues for sure, went on thousands of auditions to land the 50 or more jobs that I’ve had over the course of my career.

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You’ve done some great work. What was your very first part that you helped your mom with?

Oh, man. I don’t even know if I want to talk about that.

Taking you way back.

It was a very low budget indie movie with Chin Michael Vincent. I was just a background player, I played a featured background artist as the altar boy. That was how it worked out, my mom got a call late on a Sunday night at 10 pm and they said, “We needed an altar boy tomorrow, 6 am call”, on a Sunday night. So she woke me up before school and said, “You’re coming to work with mom.” So that was my introduction.

You’re an altar boy. I love that.

It’s funny, too because that scene was more dramatic, in the sense that there were these two cops and they were coming and there was like a drug-bust. It was something pretty dramatic for a six-year-old. Now I’m getting back into drama even though like I said before, I’m more known for my comedic work.

Right. So what have you learned over the years that you want to share with other actors? What did your mom teach? You must have learned a lot from her. She was casting so, she’s probably giving lots of good tips and you’ve played opposite some amazing people.

I’m still learning. So, it’s hard to put myself in the position of what advice I could give. But for me, I’ve always been focused on just enjoying the ride and the journey, taking the ups and the downs. I’ve abided by the idea that you’re never as good as you think you are, but you’re never as bad as they tell you you are. I just stick to the journey. So here I am, 34 years later, still chasing the dream.

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Still smiling and still a nice guy. Everybody that I talked to before we started doing this interview, as I was setting it up, just talked about what a great guy you are. That says a lot in a town like this. That’s probably why you work all the time. It’s important to be around people that you feel comfortable with and that are vibing, and you create those friendships. So talk to us about Adverse, it’s coming out a couple of weeks from now and what’s it about?

Adverse was written and created by my business partner, Brian A. Metcalf who also directed the film. We are producing partners in our company, so he came to me with this idea to do a film. We had mainly done genre films before that. This was the first time that he wanted to dip out of genre films into this drama. He came to me with this storyline about a rideshare driver that discovers his sister is in debt to a dangerous crime syndicate. He does what he can to get her out of trouble. So, when I read the script, I thought, wow! This is an amazing character and outside of my work that I’ve gotten to showcase. Brian and I had lengthy discussions about whether or not I was going to be able to pull off this role. It wasn’t the thing where Brian’s like, “Here’s this crazy challenging role for you. Go get it.” He was a little unsure, so we had several meetings. It wasn’t an audition, but it was more like work sessions of really working on and developing the character to the point where he felt comfortable that I was going to nail this performance. He had been studying for the last several years, studying Meisner Techniques, and I had grown up with Stanislavski. At first, I was a little trepidatious, but we ended up with a hybrid of the two worlds. I wouldn’t say that he tricked me into Meisner Techniques, but he definitely utilizes that a lot in his directing style. I was really surprised at how much it elevated my performance and I was very thankful that he tricked me.

That’s nice. Now for people who are listening, because we have all kinds of people that listen to the show. Tell them just really quickly what the difference is between Meisner and Stanislavski. Because some people aren’t going to understand that terminology. We do, because we work in the business, and I actually was going to ask you about this, so I’m glad you brought it up.

For me personally, because learning the acting styles of Stanislavski, which is the first offshoot of the method, and then Meisner is the second offshoot, so it’s sort of a copy of a copy. Stanislavski is the copy, and Meisner is viewed as the copy of the copy. Though, a lot of people that are mainly Meisner would vastly disagree with me. But, the Stanislavski method acting is the focus of attention and replacing, if you’re doing a dramatic scene, you might think about a dramatic incident in your life that has no bearing on the scene, but you would utilize that emotion to bring it to the scene. Meisner is about being in the moment, and in rehearsal, you’re repeating and repeating and repeating. You would also have a focus on some business like I might be doing this interview, but my focus of attention is drinking this water. So now, I’m not thinking about what I’m saying to you, I’m thinking about drinking this water, which then brings you into a more natural state. That was how Brian got me in those moments, as he would give my character a lot of business and then direct me to focus on that business, which is how he tricked me into Meisner Technique.

There’s this whole thought of good guys playing bad guys, and how do you manifest that in the moment. Tell us about the part that you played and what was the most challenging for you.

Brian really wanted to change everything about me. He wanted me to walk as the character to sound different than myself and sound like the character to look different than myself. Pretty much just a complete change to everything about me. That was a distinct challenge because it’s one thing to do things differently or make different choices as a character, but it’s another thing to envelop all of those things and do it in a way that is seemingly natural and consistent. A lot of the work sessions that we focused on were, first of all coming up with what those things would be, how that character would walk, how that character would sound when he speaks, how he’s thinking, and then working on the consistency of that throughout. The biggest challenge for me was finding those things and once we found them, then the challenge became how to stay in them. I would say that, by the end of it, or by the middle of it, there was definitely like a switch for me where I could switch back and forth at times I needed to because I was also producing. So, there would be times where I would not just come out of character from the scene, but I have to go and deal with something from the responsibility. That was fun. What I love doing is having that challenge.

Thomas Nicholas on a bench
Focus on enjoying the ride and the journey in acting. It will definitely have a lot of ups and downs.

Tell us about some of the other actors in the movie. Who did you work with the most?

I got to work with some amazing people on this film. Lou Diamond Phillips, I’ve been a fan of his for a long time. He was just talking about someone really being natural on-screen and consistent, he was all of those things. I remember actually doing one of our first scenes early in the day, and he gave me a nod after we finished the take like, “That was a good job.” I was like, “Holy cow! Lou Diamond Phillips gives me the compliment nod.” Because I was just sitting there going, “Wow! I’m getting to work with Lou Diamond Phillips.” Same with Penelope Ann Miller, she was fantastic and exudes that emotion to the point where I was trying to, in a way, keep up, but also stay true to my character. Then, of course, Sean Astin really brought something different to the table for himself than what we’ve seen in some of his comedic abilities. Then, there’s always Mickey Rourke, who is the epitome of, when I talked about how an actor walks or speaks. He is so in character, even his ears are in character. I learned a lot from working with him to the point where I remember, there was a scene, and I don’t remember how my wife or mom saw this. But in the movie, he’s walking with a cane. My wife said, “Did you have to add that cane in?” I said, “No, that’s his character.” He was working out in between camera setups and doing sit-ups and push-ups and lifting weights. He’s Mickey Rourke, he’s in his 60s with a six-pack, but he is so believable in everything that he does. He didn’t just like the scene-of-an-actor. If you’re playing drunk, most actors will innately stumble. But in order to portray being drunk, you’re trying to stay standing. The focus is on the opposite. When he’s walking with the cane, he’s not relying on the cane, but he’s walking in such a way that he’s trying not to use it. That’s the part that tricked my wife when she saw that moment.

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He’s an intense guy. Every time I think of Mickey Rourke, I have to think about us at the studio working on Pope of Greenwich Village. Mickey, Eric, and all of the shenanigans that went on and all the wonderful things that happened. I think he’s a bit larger than life, even off-screen. That’s got to be exciting for you to work with somebody like that. I don’t know what he was like in this film, but I was always amazed that he could just be involved in so many things off-camera and then all of a sudden, just be there. Right? 

He’s very intense. It was incredible to watch him and to work with him. I just tried to soak it all in. He really got along well with Brian Metcalf and took him under his wing and they ended up going to develop another project, so I know that’s waiting in the wings as well. Which is also unheard of, it’s not often that Mickey will take to a director so well, but that speaks volumes about my business partner.

Describe for us one scene that you did maybe with Mickey if you want to choose him or with Penelope. What happened in the scene and what was that like for you?

I’m trying to think of what scene that I should choose. There are so many great moments in the film and I also don’t want to give too much away. There is a tire iron that we see in the trailer. I know that one of our team members who is making all the DCPs for the theatrical release on an early cut when we were taking the film to festivals, which we’ve gotten to select for some really amazing festivals. We actually opened the Fantasporto Film Festival in Portugal, which we got to go to in-person before the lockdown in February of 2020. Coming up actually, later on this year will be in the Oaxaca Film Festival which the Golden Globes even write about on their website. If you get into Oaxaca, you should probably submit to the Golden Globes. Not my words, those are amazing Globes’ words.

You’re getting good reviews, people are liking the movie. The word of mouth on it is really good.

All I was saying that I sidetracked when he was printing a DCP for this. John, in our post-production department for printing the DCPs, nicknamed me “Tire Iron Nicholas”, instead of Thomas Ian Nicholas. After you see the film, you will understand why I’m called “Tire Iron Nicholas”. So I didn’t know if I should pick. I guess in regard to the scenes, probably the most intense moment for me was the scene with Mickey in the café, which I believe there’s a moment in the trailer where my character says, “Why do you kill?” And Mickey says, “It’s just business.” That’s the scene I’m referring to. That to me was one of those great, intense moments in the film that reminded me of, and I’m not trying to compare myself to De Niro or Pacino. But it reminded me of the movie Heat with De Niro and Pacino, sitting at Bob’s Big Boy Diner. There’s an intensity and at that point, the audience knows a lot more about what the two characters are up to. That the characters, especially Mickey don’t know about my character, Ethan. So, the intensity and the underlying sublayers of intensity was a real challenge to be able to bring that in, but also exciting at the same time.

So how did you meet Brian Metcalf? How did you guys first started, because this is like what, your fourth film with him? And you’re producing partners now?

Our business model is we both produce and then I act in the film, although now that he has done years of training. He actually plays Dante in this film, in Adverse. The drug lord that works for Mickey Rourke’s character. He’s who we think is the main bad guy, and then we find out that there’s always someone higher up the food chain. Brian is great in the film. Our thing is, he’s a great writer and a great director. We met years and years ago on one of my first projects, he actually came on to be the storyboard artist and help with visual effects, which is a lot of his background in VFX. He was the VP of several VFX post-houses around Los Angeles at a very young age in fact. We worked on that together and then as he returned the favor, he asked me to be in a trailer concept for what became the first film that we produced together. From there, it grew into what we have now as our business partnership. We’re gearing up to move into the television world now, so we’ve got a TV show that is in development that very soon we’ll start writing. Amongst all of the challenges of COVID, will be filming probably by May of this year.

Crews are still out there, they’re still filming, it’s just more difficult and more challenging. For some of them it is a little annoying, but you have to do it. You got to keep working.

It can be done. My son is taking up a step towards following in my footsteps and he booked an M. Night movie, entitled “Old”. So we were actually in the Dominican Republic in September, October, and part of November for him to film. We were doing three COVID tests a week and I was wearing a mask all day long. He obviously took us off to be in front of the camera and it was 100 degrees, humid and we came back unscathed. In a crew of 200, there were only two cases, so it can be done for sure.

I was gonna ask you about him. He’s following in daddy’s footsteps. That’s great!

At least for a moment. We’ll see how much that continues, because I plan on taking on the same tone that my mom did where it’s more his choice. It’s just not, it was my choice. I don’t want to push him in that direction, but he had a blast. I remember at the end of filming, he told M. Night, “M. Night, I’ll always audition for your movies.” I know right? He’s nine. He turned nine while we were shooting there.

He’s so adorable. His voice on your answering machines just makes me smile.

That outgoing message is from when he was three years old. It’s pretty funny, but I don’t have the heart to delete it. I feel like I gotta record it somewhere because it’s so cute having my VM, three year olds, to tell everyone that they’ve reached Thomas Nicholas and to leave a message.

He’s probably going to be incredibly embarrassed when he gets into high school and that thing is still on your machine.

I don’t think he knows it’s there. Because anytime he calls me if I’m out, I answer. So, I don’t know that he knows that it’s there. He would probably be pretty upset with me.

It’s gotta be fun for you though, to have a child that is interested in your work. My kids grew up on movie sets their whole lives and neither one of them went into my business. I don’t know what that tells you. I got a doctor and a lawyer.

It tells you they’re smarter than us, Cirina, unfortunately. I thought my son was smart until he decided to follow in my footsteps.

No, it’s gonna be great. So, Adverse is coming out in a couple of weeks. Do we have an exact date for it?

Yes. Friday, February 12th is the release date into theaters.

Where do people go to find out, where to go to see it?

They can go to and we will list all the theaters in one links that we can. The trailer that was put together by Lionsgate is on Fandango and premiered on January 12th. I’m assuming that there would be links to any of the theaters that are using the Fandango ticket platform, although I don’t know if every theater does. We’ll definitely have a list on our website of the cities and locations.

I’m sure if it’s playing in the theaters that are listed with Fandango, they’ll be able to figure it out. Let’s talk for a minute because you have such an interesting background. You’ve got the producing, the business side of things and then you have this amazing acting career which I really believe is just going to explode. This must have been fun for you to try a different kind of role with this film, but you also mentioned to me in the correspondence that you’ve been using OWC equipment for a long time. That’s how I got to meet them. I was using OWC equipment years and years ago, and this is OWC RADiO. Since we have the coincidence here, I wanted to ask you, how do you use the equipment? And what do you have over there?

My first, before actually even knowing anyone at OWC. Ten years ago, when I was upgrading my RAM in my Macintosh laptop, I asked, “Where do you go to get trustworthy equipment?” The first thing that all my friends told me was, “You want to just get OWC to upgrade the RAM. It’ll be more affordable than going to the Mac store. If you didn’t order it that way, they don’t really want you to upgrade, but OWC gives you all that ability.” Because of that upgrade, I was able to use this laptop for 10 years, which is a pretty long time for a MacBook Pro. Then, when we were doing the festival circuit, we were at that point, we didn’t necessarily know where the film was going yet. We knew that we had to get it out to Portugal. It was a no-brainer if you want reliable gear that’s robust, that’s going to make it through International FedExing, then you got to get an OWC. So we did the Envoy Pro drive, which has a four terabyte drive with USB-C or Thunderbolt. I know there’s a whole thing about which one’s which.

Adverse movie poster
We’re not releasing into theaters that are allowing 100% capacity. We’re only releasing the film to theaters that are doing a limited capacity. We want to be responsible filmmakers as excited as we are about being in theaters.

The one I’m using right now is Thunderbolt 3. Actually, I’m recording this to the Envoy Pro, because it’s so fast.

It’s so fast. That was the thing that we saw was the movie file at 4K resolution. It was like, “Ma’am, if you copy this to a regular drive, you’re gonna be waiting for hours.” The Envoy Pro was super fast. That’s what we use to send it to Portugal, for them to ingest the film into the theater there. Then, we use that actually during our deliverables process. We have the rolling deliveries and we got into the Mercury Elite Pro Dual because we needed two of them, so they were a little bit more affordable. We were able to put deliverables on and send them to Lionsgate and when they needed new stuff, we traded them. We give them the other drive that we had and get back our other one, and keep that rolling delivery going. We never had any issues with it. So on the next project, our plan, Brian and I are saying is, we’re going to exclusively use OWC Drives for all of our 4K and 6K footage.

I’m sure they’re gonna be excited to hear that. Larry O’Connor and all the people over there really care about their customers, they really do. That’s how I got started. I was at the Berlin Film Festival years ago, and I had an old MacBook laptop and it started to die. I knew that I needed to replace the hard drive in it, so I replaced it with an OWC SSD drive. First of all, the thing became really fast, really efficient. Like you, it lasted for years and years and years. Larry loves to hear that because he’s really green over there. I’m gonna tell him, you said that. He’s gonna be really excited.

Then my wife’s laptop ran into an issue and she had the MacBook that you couldn’t update the RAM on. Then I said, “If you clear up some of your hard drive space, it’ll probably operate a little faster.” Then she bought that little OWC SSD USB drive that has a terabyte on it, but it’s the size of your thumb. I feel like it just makes it easier if you’re working on the kitchen table. You don’t want to have cords around the kids. So I said, “You could just clear up your heart.” That thing’s a terabyte in her laptop itself is like 256-gigs. Yeah, it’s hilarious. Then also, I don’t want to forget that thanks to Larry, we actually sent the Adverse trailer to space and back.

Very cool. I forgot about that. You did do that.

Yeah, we did that. I did that with a couple of things. We sent the Adverse trailer and then I also got to, on the side, I’m starting a kids project that I’ve had on the back burner for 10 years of music-made for kids that’s fun and sometimes educational. That’s called the “Robot Kid”. I sent that out, too. But that’s another story.

Oh, that’s nice. You’re doing so many different things. I don’t know how you keep track of it all.

I don’t either. A lot of coffee.

That was Adverse post-produced in L.A. Where was it shot? Where was it post-produced?

We shot it around Los Angeles. We did probably 25 locations, from The Viper Room, downtown Los Angeles, at rooftops, and in the valley. We did all the post-production in Los Angeles as well.

How long did it take to shoot it?

It was somewhere between 20 and 25 days.

Under 30?

Under 30 days. Definitely under 30.

Definitely under 30. Then post-produced in L.A. as well?

Yeah. Because Brian comes from the visual effects background. So he had access to some amazing, VFX artists. We got Brian to kind of oversee it himself. It wasn’t even just like him as a director saying, “Oh, I don’t like how that looks.” It was like, “Here, let me fix that.” Then he could just dive right in to whatever program he was using to fix it. He also had a real hands-on approach to the color correction, so the look of the film really is Brian’s vision in all ways that one can consider.

I’m just going to ask you, you’re always anticipating my questions. Because I was gonna tell you the color looks really good and I’m wondering, assuming that Brian was really good at that. So the film has been referred to as neo-noir, right?


So it’s dark, it’s definitely not a comedy. How do you take that home at night? You’ve got a child at home and a wife. Is it hard to get away from the intensity of what you’re doing during the day? Does it affect you at night? I did a lot of night shooting, too.

Yeah, we did a lot of night shooting. So, it really would have to affect me during the day.

There you go.

Like most guys, I’m very good at compartmentalizing.

You gotta keep that relationship going.

Even just a few minutes before doing this interview, I’m setting up my space, getting my lights on, getting my LED curtain up. Then I hear, because obviously, we’re still in lockdown here in L.A. So I’ve got two kids. Nolan is nine and Zoey is four. My wife’s making lunch, and then something else happened and I needed to help with it. I’m like, “I’m about to do this. Okay, I’ll come with you.” I was definitely not a super dad. I was more like, aggravated dad. But no one’s perfect, especially me.

No, I really appreciate it. I know you’re busy. But, we’re really excited about the film and we’re all wishing you the best. I know the folks of OWC are very proud of the fact that you’re using our equipment. That’s what they exist for, is to make us happy. They’re always glad to hear that. So, break-a-leg in the next couple of weeks. I really want to see it in the theater. So hopefully, I’ll be able to do that.

Where are you, Cirina?

I’m in San Diego.

Because I know we’re in some of the Galaxy Theaters and the Emagine Theaters. A lot of the California theaters are closed. We’re not doing so well here with our safety and numbers, and rate of infection and all that stuff.

Looking on the positive, you’re spending more time with your family and you do have time to really think about all of these things in your life that you’re working on. I know for me, I’m not traveling, obviously, I would spend probably two-thirds of every year on the road or in production. So now, I’m home a lot more.

It’s very strange, my wife is a touring DJ so her life is totally on the road and I also have my band. It’s been a big adjustment for us to be home. There’s definitely a positive thing. The thing that’s the toughest for us is looking at our daughter who’s 4, that she had just started one month of pre-school right before everything went on lockdown. She’s very much going, “When do I get to go back and see my friends? When do I get to start school again?” That’s probably the toughest thing is, seeing what it’s going to do with that sort of age bracket.

Right. Tell us about your band. I want to know about your band. I was gonna ask you about that and I forgot. I’m glad you mentioned it again. Tell us about your music.

I’ve been playing and touring for the last 10, 12 years, maybe a little bit longer than that. But we’ll only talk about the last 10 to 12. Then, during this time of being on lockdown, I had. When I went to Portugal, I did a UK Tour and had the first single of the year drop, then I went online. This is my concert room, from my live streaming events. I’ve been doing a Patreon account for the new music. We’ve released four singles, I’ve done 36 consecutive Sunday concerts right from this space, right here. Number 37 is coming up in a couple of days.

My god, you don’t have anything to do. Where do we go to see it? Tell people where to go.

Just to Patreon, We’ve got more singles coming out in March and April. We’re trying to release a song probably about every six weeks right now.

That’s awesome. Music is so important. I tell everybody that’s having a hard time during this lockdown and everything that’s going on, just listen to music. Find some music that you love and turn it on and listen to it. You’ll find your whole mindset will change. That will give you the energy that you need to keep going and do something wonderful.

Absolutely. My son has been playing the piano for about five or six years. My daughter after watching the Trolls 2 movie, really became aware of what mommy and daddy do for a living with music. Now, she’s determined that she’s going to be a rockstar.

Oh, I love it! Thomas, congratulations on everything you do. You’ve got to be so happy and so proud. Lovely family, great work on both the film, the music side, and the producing side. Congratulations!

Thank you so much. Thank you for taking the time to talk with me today about Adverse and help get the word out. I’m very proud of this film and the work that I got to showcase. To let people see a brand new side. I’ve always said that I’m a fighter who spent 30 odd years pretending that I’m left-handed and I’m really right-handed. Now, I’m turning my stance and showing my drama. I’m excited for everyone to see the real thing that I love doing in the acting world.

Tell us again the website you want people to go to and to learn more about you in the film. is where you can find the current trailer right now. And of course, the list of all the theaters that you can catch it in. Then in the future, it’ll be where you can go to figure out what platforms it will be available on.

Well, break a leg on all of this! Thank you and you go have a wonderful day. Everybody, you know what I always tell you, get up off your chairs and go do something wonderful today. This is Cirina Catania with OWC RADiO. I’m with Thomas Ian Nicholas and we’re talking about his new film coming out, Adverse, his wonderful concerts on Patreon, and life in what’s going to be a very fast lane for you. Congratulations to Brian Metcalf as well. We will see you in the theaters hopefully very soon. I’m signing off, you guys have a great day. Thank you.


  1. When going to acting auditions, always be prepared. Know it may take you a hundred auditions before you can get a single role. 
  2. Enjoy the journey of your acting career. Your acting life will definitely have a lot of ups and downs.
  3. Grab any challenging role offered to you. Take it as a stepping stone to hone your acting skills.
  4. Study different acting methods, like Meisner and Stanislavski. Learn how to merge those acting methods to give a great performance in your roles. 
  5. Research any characters given to you. Learn how to act naturally and consistently.
  6. Maintain a good working relationship with your co-actors and learn from them, especially veteran actors.
  7. Hire an agent or agency that will help you land an audition from a producer or casting director.
  8. Join a union for actors to protect your wages and ensure proper working conditions on set.
  9. Check out the Adverse trailer at and watch it in theaters.
  10. Check out Thomas Nicholas’s website to learn more about him and how to reach out to him.

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